[poppler] PDF form

Fri Jul 5 15:00:34 UTC 2019

Tobias - that is correct.  

For PDF 2.0, XFA is deprecated, which means that while it is still permitted it is not recommended (and a processor can freely ignore it).   However, that has *NO* impact on PDF 1.x where XFA is still a perfectly valid feature.

I am not suggesting or recommending that anyone support XFA (if they haven't already).  I was simply correcting an incorrect statement about XFA being part of PDF 1.x & 32K-1.

Leonard

On 7/5/19, 9:48 AM, "Tobias Deiminger" <haxtibal at posteo.de> wrote:

    Hi Leonard,

    Am 05.07.2019 14:43 schrieb Leonard Rosenthol:
    >> That file uses XFA, XFA is not part of the PDF standard.
    >> 
    > That's *NOT* true, Albert..

    but we can read from various sources that XFA has been deprecated:
    Wikipedia: "The XML Forms Architecture was not standardized as an ISO 
    standard, and has been deprecated in PDF 2.0." [0]
    PDF/A: "Deprecated items include: XFA (incl. NeedsRendering)" [1]
    Probably ISO 32000-2 itself? I don't own a copy to check it.

    > While the XFA specification is a separate document, it is normatively
    > referenced in ISO 32000-1.  Exactly the same way that TrueType, Flate
    > compression, etc. are referenced.

    True for ISO 32000-1 (PDF 1.7), but not for ISO 32000-2 (PDF 2.0), is 
    it?
    I have a hard time to imagine why anyone would want to invest spare time
    into this rather nasty mix of PDF and XML now that it's deprecated with 
    PDF 2.0.

    > Leonard

    Tobias

    [0] https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FXFA&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7Ca8cb17c8c61b4cf1e60008d7014f706a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636979313015111460&sdata=RAx78sP8elZTSjjvUnOpSisB49GP0sQwJJZUzADPgs0%3D&reserved=0
    [1] 
    https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pdfa.org%2Fpdf-2-0-the-worldwide-standard-for-electronic-documents-has-evolved%2F&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7Ca8cb17c8c61b4cf1e60008d7014f706a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636979313015111460&sdata=8Ye9sa0w1kVT5Sfw%2BnRH5b3fjYNsna%2FizkaI%2BVJ1SMw%3D&reserved=0

    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: poppler <poppler-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
    > Albert Astals Cid
    > Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 1:44 PM
    > To: poppler at lists.freedesktop.org
    > Subject: Re: [poppler] PDF form
    > 
    > El dijous, 4 de juliol de 2019, a les 15:34:54 CEST, Alex Korobkin va 
    > escriure:
    >> There are special forms that Okular and Evince can't open, like this
    >> one
    >> https://www.
    >> canada.ca%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fircc%2Fmigration%2Fircc%2Fenglish%2Fpdf%2F
    >> kits%2Fforms%2Fimm5257e.pdf&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C
    >> 8695968603154e3e927908d700a7336b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C
    >> 0%7C1%7C636978590441132683&sdata=hEGYOOGuzeqsFASqyRy9QMLtiTOgVV8IE
    >> weZBIzcISg%3D&reserved=0
    > 
    > That file uses XFA, XFA is not part of the PDF standard.
    > 
    > Contact your government and tell them they should fix their PDF files
    > to be standards compliant.
    > 
    > Cheers,
    >   Albert
    > 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 7:03 AM Tobias Deiminger <haxtibal at posteo.de> 
    >> wrote:
    >> 
    >> > Hi Valerio,
    >> >
    >> > Am 04.07.2019 12:05 schrieb Valerio Messina:
    >> > > I cannot find a Linux application to fill PDF forms.
    >> > > On Linux, last Acrobat is 9 and it can't too.
    >> > > Seems Evince and Okular cannot too.
    >> > >
    >> > > Does poppler support them, and someone can suggest and application
    >> > > poppler based that can fill forms?
    >> >
    >> > yes, poppler and Okular do support filling PDF forms.
    >> > I'm not sure about Evince, that should be answered by our Gnome
    >> > people here.
    >> >
    >> > What you describe smells like either a broken document (because you
    >> > say even Acrobat can't fill the forms), or maybe it's no real form
    >> > but just non-interactive graphic in which case you would use
    >> > typewriter annotations to fill them.
    >> >
    >> > Feel free to open a poppler bug where you attach the PDF file, so
    >> > that we can have a look at it.
    >> >
    >> > Tobias
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