[poppler] PDF form

Tobias Deiminger haxtibal at posteo.de
Fri Jul 5 13:48:13 UTC 2019


Hi Leonard,

Am 05.07.2019 14:43 schrieb Leonard Rosenthol:
>> That file uses XFA, XFA is not part of the PDF standard.
>> 
> That's *NOT* true, Albert..

but we can read from various sources that XFA has been deprecated:
Wikipedia: "The XML Forms Architecture was not standardized as an ISO 
standard, and has been deprecated in PDF 2.0." [0]
PDF/A: "Deprecated items include: XFA (incl. NeedsRendering)" [1]
Probably ISO 32000-2 itself? I don't own a copy to check it.

> While the XFA specification is a separate document, it is normatively
> referenced in ISO 32000-1.  Exactly the same way that TrueType, Flate
> compression, etc. are referenced.

True for ISO 32000-1 (PDF 1.7), but not for ISO 32000-2 (PDF 2.0), is 
it?
I have a hard time to imagine why anyone would want to invest spare time
into this rather nasty mix of PDF and XML now that it's deprecated with 
PDF 2.0.

> Leonard

Tobias

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFA
[1] 
https://www.pdfa.org/pdf-2-0-the-worldwide-standard-for-electronic-documents-has-evolved/

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: poppler <poppler-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
> Albert Astals Cid
> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 1:44 PM
> To: poppler at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [poppler] PDF form
> 
> El dijous, 4 de juliol de 2019, a les 15:34:54 CEST, Alex Korobkin va 
> escriure:
>> There are special forms that Okular and Evince can't open, like this
>> one
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> canada.ca%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fircc%2Fmigration%2Fircc%2Fenglish%2Fpdf%2F
>> kits%2Fforms%2Fimm5257e.pdf&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C
>> 8695968603154e3e927908d700a7336b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C
>> 0%7C1%7C636978590441132683&sdata=hEGYOOGuzeqsFASqyRy9QMLtiTOgVV8IE
>> weZBIzcISg%3D&reserved=0
> 
> That file uses XFA, XFA is not part of the PDF standard.
> 
> Contact your government and tell them they should fix their PDF files
> to be standards compliant.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 7:03 AM Tobias Deiminger <haxtibal at posteo.de> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Valerio,
>> >
>> > Am 04.07.2019 12:05 schrieb Valerio Messina:
>> > > I cannot find a Linux application to fill PDF forms.
>> > > On Linux, last Acrobat is 9 and it can't too.
>> > > Seems Evince and Okular cannot too.
>> > >
>> > > Does poppler support them, and someone can suggest and application
>> > > poppler based that can fill forms?
>> >
>> > yes, poppler and Okular do support filling PDF forms.
>> > I'm not sure about Evince, that should be answered by our Gnome
>> > people here.
>> >
>> > What you describe smells like either a broken document (because you
>> > say even Acrobat can't fill the forms), or maybe it's no real form
>> > but just non-interactive graphic in which case you would use
>> > typewriter annotations to fill them.
>> >
>> > Feel free to open a poppler bug where you attach the PDF file, so
>> > that we can have a look at it.
>> >
>> > Tobias
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>> > 7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C8695968603154e3e927908d700a7336b%7Cfa7b1b5a
>> > 7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C1%7C636978590441142677&sdata=h5RN
>> > zLZj3mxG6VMtPk54EM0bMRPaGDmF1Sx4m1QFzqw%3D&reserved=0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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