[pulseaudio-discuss] Moving sources and sinks

Colin Guthrie gmane at colin.guthr.ie
Sat May 3 15:44:18 PDT 2008

Tomas Carnecky wrote:
> Colin Guthrie wrote:
>> I disagree that this community is unresponsive. You just have to be
>> patient. Lennart is the main developer but he does not sit slavishly
>> reading the mailing list and responding immediately. He'll usually have
>> a big purge every couple weeks, but generally does respond to almost
>> everyone who asks something, unless someone else has jumped in already.
> PulseAudio + Wine is still a big no-no. Like described in my earlier 
> mail to this mailing list (sent 24.2.2008) I've come to a point where I 
> don't know any further and asked for help. Nobody answered. Not even to 
> the ticket in PA trac or the ticket in the alsa bugtracker.
> Ubuntu now ships with PA enabled by default, which causes big troubles 
> for those wanting to play games under Wine. I know the best solution 
> would be to have a native PA driver in Wine, but that won't happen 
> anytime soon. There are bugs in the pulse alsa driver. Fixing those 
> shouldn't be such big problem for someone familiar with the inner 
> workings of PA.

What are the bugs in the pulse alsa plugin you refer to? There are some
feature limitations but they are typically down to what any ioplug
plugin is capable of.

When I last looked at the wine alsa layer it was *really* nasty. It
didn't even open the "default" device, it would instead try to open
"default:0".... I think it was cleaned up a bit, but it should be very
simple for someone to rewrite it or write a direct pulse driver. The
main wine folks don't use PA so don't really care about this.

If there is something in pulse that can be fixed, it shoudl be reported,
but as tonnes of apps out there work fine with pulse+alsa, I suspect
strongly (and this is based on actually having a quick peak at the code
a while back) that the problems lie at the wine end.

> Sorry for hijacking the thread, but the community has been largely 
> unresponsive to this particular issue. Just wanted to bring that up.

That's OK in my book. I don't personally use wine otherwise I'd have
probably fixed it by now! It wouldn't take long for someone with
suitable motivation to do it. I'm surprised no-one has to be honest.


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