[pulseaudio-discuss] installing header files
Lennart Poettering
lennart at poettering.net
Sun Aug 16 13:58:52 PDT 2009
On Tue, 11.08.09 09:31, James Bottomley (James.Bottomley at HansenPartnership.com) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 21:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 11.08.09 05:25, Patrick Shirkey (pshirkey at boosthardware.com) wrote:
> >
> > >> That Skype is a mess is not really anything free software folks can do
> > >> anything about. It's closed source. The Linux version is barely
> > >> maintained and does about everything wrong that it can do wrong. I
> > >> know that some folks believe that Skype's incompat with PA is my
> > >> problem. But quite frankly, it is not. It's Skype's problem.
> > >
> > > It's not actually. It's the users problem because when they use skype
> > > they can't use pulseaudio. Unless of course they have a second sound
> > > device such as a usb phone. I personally do have one and maybe it should
> > > be recommended as the correct way to use skype on a Linux Audio
> > > system.
> >
> > Hmm, not sure why having a second audio device should solve any
> > problems Skype has with PA. Everything Skype can do with the second
> > audio device it should be able to do with the first.
>
> He means hide the second audio device from PA and use it natively in
> ALSA for skype. It's a solution; just not a very elegant one.
Hmm, but he could temporarily hide the first one too. In fact there is
a tool "pasuspender" which does just that for cases like this.
>
> > >> Also, Realplayer? Why would anyone want to use that?
> > >
> > > I understand where your coming from but I think it's a crossover issue
> > > more than anything. People want to use what tehy are comfortable with
> > > and if there is a choice between realplayer and mplayer a lot of people
> > > will choose realplayer.
> >
> > We ship Totem in Fedora, installed by default. I am pretty sure most
> > other distributions do that too. People really should use Totem. We
> > ship neither realplayer nor mplayer.
>
> Totem, as most actual users are well aware, is basically hampered by the
> lack of codecs (mainly because of patent/licence problems). In
> practise, to view actual content users download from the externally
> (outside the problem jurisdiction) hosted Packman (SUSE) or rpmfusion
> (Red Hat) xine or mplayer because they have much better codec
> support.
Every codec that is available for xine/mplayer is also available for
GStreamer, since they all are based on ffmpeg.
There isn't much of a difference between installing mplayer/xine from some
external repo or installing gstreamer-ffmpeg from there, is there?
Lennart
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