[Spice-devel] Spice bug62033, Gnome bug 680195 rework: new inhibitors for desktop effects

[Fedor Lyakhov]

Hi Bastein,

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 11/02/2013 05:50 PM, Fedor Lyakhov wrote:
>>
>> Bastein, Hans,
>>
>> We need an agreement on this topic so I can implement something - and
>> have it accepted in both Spice and Gnome eventually.
>>
>> There are 2 possible approaches conflicting here:
>> (i) (spice-proposed) DEs to export API for toggling effects
>> (preferable inhibitor-styled). Spice to actively use this API as it
>> sees fit.
>> (ii) (gnome-proposed) Spice to export API about its internal state,
>> DEs to recognize Spice and use that API as they want (e.g. disable
>> effects).
>>
>> Both approaches can work, and second one seems to be easier to
>> implement for Spice/Gnome stack.
>> Main arguments pro (i):
>> 1. It seems right for Spice to be in an active position, deciding what
>> to do. DEs are merely environments providing APIs and means for
>> applications to achieve their goals.
>> 2. Spice aims to support many DEs, not only Gnome (mainly under
>> freedesktop, ofc). Making other DEs to recognize Spice usage and
>> implement appropriate logic seems to be incorrect approach, which may
>> be not acceptable from their PoV.
>>
>> To address Bastein's concern about new inhibitors: we want them to be
>> system ones, similar to existing idle and other inhibitors. Not
>> something in the user space of Spice. They should be useful for other
>> remoting applications like VNC, and maybe some other apps (cannot
>> think up other real use cases right now).
>
>
> Either way works for me, with a slight preferences for having inhibitors.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hans

Bastein, how much are you against Spice-proposed approach? If I can
reduce your concerns, I'm willing to do so...

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Best regards,
Fedor