[systemd-devel] One of my fundamental problems with systemd...

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:04:42AM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2012-10-27 at 05:24 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> >> sent too quickly..
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 05:22:30AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:16:47PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> >> > > BTW...  Not to drop names (which I'm about to do) or anything and I know
> >> > > in a big organization not everybody knows everyone but...
> >> >
> >> > I prefer judging myself. And at the moment I see you using words like:
> >> >  - crap
> >> >  - POS
> >>  - barf
> >>  - fsck (though meaning fuck)
> >
> >> It is not needed to tell what you did. Just be nice and people will show
> >> the same courtesy.
> >
> > Offense not intended.  It's the terms we use in several other forums
> > with no offense take.  In fact, in the Openswan forum "barf" has a
> > specific command and meaning.  If you have a problem with Openswan you
> > are quite often asked for the "barf" (dump).
> >
> > Maybe I'm too old and too abrasive and too use to the old culture where
> > this was common.
> 
> We are actually proud here not to act or need to talk like people on
> LKML. We generally enjoy to talk like respectful and civilized people,
> and want to keep it that way.
Hi,

Kay, Olav, I think that we're being a bit unfair towards
Michael. There's an implication that his posts were offensive, but they
weren't. Overly verbose, yes, repetitive, yes, agitated, etc, but not
intended as rude. Michael started by reporting valid problems, with a
setup in which systemd is involved, even if not the culprit. So
closing the discussion by concentrating on style is not the right
way, imho.

Michael, please step back, compile the latest (git) version of
systemd, and report _specific_ things that can be improved.

Zbyszek