[systemd-devel] Fwd: Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

[Reindl Harald]

uhm the below is the result of people using "reply-all" on
lists and the other side filters out duplicates caused by
leading the off-list reply survives if it was faster

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Betreff: Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown
Datum: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:59:56 +0100
Von: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
An: Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering.net>

Am 24.01.2014 18:53, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Fri, 24.01.14 18:45, Reindl Harald (h.reindl at thelounge.net) wrote:
>>>>>> However, something like that can never be the default, we need to give
>>>>>> services the chance to shut down cleanly and in the right order.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't ask for any change to any default, I just asked for
>>>>> users to be able to make the shutdown process proceed when
>>>>> they have more information than systemd has about the chances
>>>>> of success of some random stop job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without that, what you *will* get is people pulling the
>>>>> power plug which has a vastly greater chance of screwing up
>>>>> the system than not waiting for a single stop job.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps just displaying the timeout would be useful here.
>>>
>>> We do that. Michal's "eye of sauron" animation is shown as soon as
>>> something blocks too long, and the name of the unit we are waiting for
>>> is shown.
>>
>> but there is nothing saying how long the timeout remains
>> "displaying the timeout" means a value in seconds
> 
> That delay is set to 5s

????

the timeout is "TimeoutStopSec" or "TimeoutStopSec"

> Oh, and where I wrote "eye of sauron" I meant "cylon"

irrelevant - whatever it is it says "waiting for service xyz"
but it does *not* say how long it waits until it will give up

the interesting value is "TimeoutStopSec-TimeWaiting"

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