[systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

[Michael Biebl]

2015-02-17 22:25 GMT+01:00 Greg KH <gregkh at linuxfoundation.org>:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 08:24:37PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> so i'm not going to "protest" - i'm going to try a different approach.
>> i'd like you to look at this list of debian packages that are
>> dependent on libsystemd0:
>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/list_of_libsystemd0_dependent_packages.txt
>>
>> it's an enormous list, comprising some 15% of the packages present in
>> debian today.  it includes apache2-dev, bluetooth / bluez, the gimp,
>> php, *all* of the video players (xine, mplayer, vlc), *all* of the
>> games and 3D packages that use SDL or pulseaudio (which is most of
>> them), *all* of the major desktop environments including xfce4, lxde,
>> Gnome and KDE/Plasma, cups-daemon, one of the anti-virus daemons, most
>> of the music software packages and services, most of the VoIP clients,
>> the android SDK, the eclipse IDE, OpenJDK 7, erlang, Apache
>> Tomcat..... i'm just absolutely blown away by the extent of the
>> dependencies.
>
> How exactly did you create such a dependancy list?  On my system
> (non-debian but fully systemd-only), I picked two random packages from
> your list, gimp and cheese:
> $ ldd /usr/bin/cheese | grep system
> $ ldd /usr/bin/gimp | grep system
>
> Hm, no dependencies there.
>
> Perhaps you might wish to just file a Debian bug so that they fix their
> build systems?  Arch Linux doesn't have this kind of requirement, so
> something must be odd here...
>

There is no such dependency in Debian either [1].
Luke simply has no idea what he is talking about.
It would be great if Luke did some basic research and educate himself
and not spread such misinformation.




[1] https://packages.debian.org/sid/gimp
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