[systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

[Michael Biebl]

2015-02-17 22:35 GMT+01:00 Michael Biebl <mbiebl at gmail.com>:
> 2015-02-17 22:25 GMT+01:00 Greg KH <gregkh at linuxfoundation.org>:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 08:24:37PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>> so i'm not going to "protest" - i'm going to try a different approach.
>>> i'd like you to look at this list of debian packages that are
>>> dependent on libsystemd0:
>>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/list_of_libsystemd0_dependent_packages.txt
>>>
>>> it's an enormous list, comprising some 15% of the packages present in
>>> debian today.  it includes apache2-dev, bluetooth / bluez, the gimp,
>>> php, *all* of the video players (xine, mplayer, vlc), *all* of the
>>> games and 3D packages that use SDL or pulseaudio (which is most of
>>> them), *all* of the major desktop environments including xfce4, lxde,
>>> Gnome and KDE/Plasma, cups-daemon, one of the anti-virus daemons, most
>>> of the music software packages and services, most of the VoIP clients,
>>> the android SDK, the eclipse IDE, OpenJDK 7, erlang, Apache
>>> Tomcat..... i'm just absolutely blown away by the extent of the
>>> dependencies.
>>
>> How exactly did you create such a dependancy list?  On my system
>> (non-debian but fully systemd-only), I picked two random packages from
>> your list, gimp and cheese:
>> $ ldd /usr/bin/cheese | grep system
>> $ ldd /usr/bin/gimp | grep system
>>
>> Hm, no dependencies there.
>>
>> Perhaps you might wish to just file a Debian bug so that they fix their
>> build systems?  Arch Linux doesn't have this kind of requirement, so
>> something must be odd here...
>>
>
> There is no such dependency in Debian either [1].
> Luke simply has no idea what he is talking about.
> It would be great if Luke did some basic research and educate himself
> and not spread such misinformation.
>

Let me clarify this this misinformation and make it absolutely clear:
There are less then 100 packages in the Debian archive which depend on
libsystemd0


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