[systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Git development moved to github

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 06/10/2015 03:09 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 10.06.15 14:53, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johannbg at gmail.com) wrote:
>
>>>>> WHat really surprises me about the whole discussion is that we cannot
>>>>> be the first ones running into this. Given the success of github this
>>>>> must be a common issue. And if it is, then either github is actually
>>>>> prety bad, or I am too stuck in my bugzilla mindset and haven't really
>>>>> grokked the github way of doing things yet.
>>>> If you want good review tool, why not use gerrit?
>>> We do not have the resources to maintain our own infrastructure.
>> In term of manpower we have 452 code contributors and 1170 members
>> subscribed to this list.
>>
>> Then there are several means to fund that infrastructure so could you please
>> clarify how you come to this conclusion that we are short on resources?
> "lurkers" and "admins who are committed to continously run services
> for us for free over years" are quite different things.
>
> Also, systemd is not an organization, we are just some losely
> affiliated hackers. We have no budget, we have no money, we cannot
> employ anyone, and we have zero intention to change that and acquire
> budget/money/administration.

o_O

Without proper infrastructure ( or at least the wills to acquire such )  
how can you ( or any of us for that matter ) with a straight face 
advocate for consolidation and call systemd the modern building block of 
an OS ( which arguably means this is second component to the Linux 
kernel ) and sell distribution and companies that it should be what they 
rely on?

All these years we have work hard on all distribution and embedded 
switch to us, rely on us and when push comes to shove we go "meh" we 
have no intention to go to the next level to properly support you?

Am I the only one here that feels any obligation and responsibility to 
our downstream consumers?

I need a drink...

JBG