[systemd-devel] thoughts on different command structure

Xen list at xenhideout.nl
Wed Oct 5 19:26:48 UTC 2016

Tomasz Torcz schreef op 05-10-2016 19:12:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 07:00:11PM +0200, Xen wrote:
>>  [ … renaming propositions … ]
>   Uh, it is way too late for such changes.  Maybe if you brought this
> five years ago… Right now it would only bring pointless differentation
> between older and newer distributions.  We just started
> unification of all differences in distributions.

Well then create a SystemD 2 and make it the next incarnation :p.

The idea that it can be "too late" to change anything about anything 
must surely be seen as a rather weird thing because it would imply that 
a 1000 years from now we would still be using the same systemd unless it 
was replaced by some other tool for precisely the reason that it didn't 
evolve anymore ;-).

Alright so I will just create systemQ that does nothing other than 
translate all of the systemd calls for fun since no one else uses these 
command names anyway ;-).

It will just be impossible to create new or matching functionality ;-).

>   Binaries prefixed with systemd- are either not to be started manually
> (systemd-journald, networkd etc) or not stable/mature enough to be 
> widely
> used – like cgtop, cgls.  The latter kind can be renamed if it
> matured enough - that what happened with systemd-journalctl → 
> journalctl.

Yes actually I only referred to systemd-analyze.

>   As for /usr/libexec/systemd/systemd … well, maybe it should be called
> systemd-initd from the start.  Now it's too late.

It says it is called "init" anyway. It is still started as /sbin/init.

$ ps 1
     1 ?        Ss     0:04 /sbin/init

$ ps -o comm 1

Actually on my system it is symlinked to /bin/systemd.... I don't really 
know what for. Probably only to put it in the path?

But anyway I don't see how it could ever be too late. Your 
/usr/libexec/systemd/systemd is my /lib/systemd/systemd.

And pretty much nothing needs to know about that path. But anyway.

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