[systemd-devel] Illegal CPUID instruction causes systemd core dump
D.S. Ljungmark
spider at aanstoot.se
Fri Jan 5 20:09:35 UTC 2018
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>
> Am 05.01.2018 um 05:51 schrieb D.S. Ljungmark:
>>
>> If you want I can bring a small form factor early x86 to Fosdem.
>>
>> Industrial, rugged little things with x86 chipset was rather popular
>> for a while, and you can still order them new. The ones I have aren't
>> i486 but a 586 (cyrix, I think).
>
>
> i am sure you can find everything if you want
>
> but are you running a recent distribution with the newest software on that
> box? i strongly doubt!
Up until two years ago, yeah. Then we migrated them to ARM.
>
> P.S.: what about using proper mail- clients which knows list-headers instead
> "reply-all" and break threads because the faster offlist-mail leading to
> filter out the list-mail with the headers which comes later or do they also
> not exist on such old hardware?
>
Sure, once Evolution + Seahorse unbreaks in combination and stops
dying with gpg2.
Until then, it's sadly web-frontends.
>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 28.12.2017 um 20:07 schrieb tedheadster:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am doing regression testing on old hardware. systemd-233 just
>>>> generated the following error on startup:
>>>>
>>>> I believe it is getting an illegal instruction trap on this first
>>>> generation 486 because it is calling "cpuid" in detect_vm_cpuid()
>>>> without first checking if the hardware supports it; it doesn't in this
>>>> case.
>>>>
>>>> The gcc compiler provides a workaround in the cpuid.h header file. You
>>>> can call __get_cpuid_max() first and check the return value > 0.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14266772/how-do-i-call-cpuid-in-linux#14266932
>>>>
>>>> The Linux kernel still supports the 486 so we have to code around this
>>>> case, even if it is ancient hardware
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> don't get me wrong - i am for 15 years now in the IT and my first PC in
>>> 1999
>>> was a i686
>>>
>>> i don't see how a brand new systemd and a mordern userland is supposed to
>>> run on 20 years or older hardware where nearly eveyr distribution these
>>> days
>>> is i586 or i686 only or starts to drop 32bit at all
>>>
>>> if you have that old hardware normally you don't use leading edge
>>> software
>>> on it and as a user (not systemd developer) i would love to see erevry
>>> single line of code for 20 years old hardware is removed to make it
>>> cleaner
>>> and in doubt faster on recent systems
>
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