[Uim] uim-helper-applet: what does the 'R' button/menu do?

James Su suzhe at tsinghua.org.cn
Wed Aug 18 20:54:18 EEST 2004


Hi,
  Do you have plan to fix this issue?

Regards
James Su

yusuke at cherubim.icw.co.jp wrote:

>Hi,
>
>gabor, Matthew, sorry for confusion.
>
>The menu does not work correctly due to bug.
>'R' in the button means romaji, romaji input maps alphabet sequence
>to hiragana or katakana.
>On the other hand, kana mode is used with Japanese keyboard.
>Hiragana character is printed on top of Japanese keyboard with ordinary
>ASCII Characteres. User can type hiragana with a stroke.
>However, most of uim developers use romaji mode and often test and fix
>bugs in kana mode.
>
>Anyway, thank you for using uim and Japanese.
>
>From: Matthew Tippett <matthew.tippett at sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: [Uim] uim-helper-applet: what does the 'R' button/menu do?
>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:58:54 -0400
>
>  
>
>>Although I am no expert, I think I can describe the differences. 
>>For those gurus online, please forgive my lack of understanding of 
>>the terms.
>>
>>In Japanese Input mode, the left button is...
>>
>>	- Hiragana
>>	- Katakana
>>	- Half width katakana
>>	- Non-Japanese (english)
>>	- Romaji
>>
>>The Romaji mode is double width (like the first two).  Half-width 
>>katakana fits in the same space as an individual character.  My 
>>investigations indicate that it is much more than just 'double 
>>space' english.  If I do 'vi' in this mode, it cannot find vi.  My 
>>assumption is that the ROMAJI characters are not in the standard 
>>ASCII character set, and so are interpreted differently.
>>
>>Note that the switch key (Shift-space) switches between the first 
>>three and the bottom two.
>>
>>As to the right button, I couldn't discern an effect - the bottom 
>>characters are かな (kana) and the top one is ローマ字 (romaji).  I 
>>don't know the effect.  Judging by the effect of the button,  I 
>>would say it changes the 'romaji' interpretation (し = si, not shi).
>>
>>PS as a native english owner speaker, moving into Japanese is a 
>>baffling experience.  But I can now spot quite a few characters, 
>>although I still can't discern much from what I see.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Matthew
>>
>>gabor wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>i am trying to use uim,
>>>and have been playing with the configurations and so on.
>>>one mayor problem for me is that the most of the docs on the webpages is
>>>in japanese, so for someone who wants to learn japanese it's a chicken-
>>>egg problem ;)))
>>>so here's the question:
>>>
>>>when i add the helper applet to the panel in gnome,
>>>there are 2 buttons on the panel:
>>>-i mostly understand the first one. it switches between hiragana
>>>katakana and so on,
>>>but what does the last option do? if i turn it on, i start to write
>>>latin characters with big spaces between them
>>>
>>>-the second button. it displays a 'R'.if i click on it, it display ローマ字
>>>and  かな. if i click on the first one, nothing happens. if iclick on the
>>>second one,  the following happens:
>>>	-without clicking on it, when i write for example わたし i enter 'watashi'
>>>on the keyboard. 
>>>	-but if i click on the second option, entering 'watashi' shows わたsし. i
>>>have to enter 'watasi' to get what i wanted. and after this, i cannot
>>>change back to the 'old' behaviour. clicking on ローマ字 does not help. i
>>>have to restart the app to make it work again.  
>>>
>>>so what is the function of:
>>>-the last entry from the first button
>>>-the second buttons entries
>>>?
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>gabor farkas
>>>
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