State of Wayland, 2012-04-08
Simon Hong
simon.hong81 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 9 19:52:04 PDT 2012
I saw that Wayland port is removed in the chromium project, two days ago.
I don't know the reason and next plan about wayland.
Refer to below issue.
https://chromiumcodereview.appspot.com/10009024
2012/4/10 Kristian Høgsberg <krh at bitplanet.net>
> That's a very nice overview of the project, though I'd point out that
> there's a bit more work to do on GTK+ support: client side decorations
> (as you mention), selections, dnd and popup placement are the big
> ones. It would also be nice to included a summary of what's mssing in
> the protocol and the state of mutter-on-wayland.
>
> thanks,
> Kristian
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM, <darxus at chaosreigns.com> wrote:
> > This is far from official. If you have better information, please
> provide
> > it. HTML version: http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/state/
> >
> >
> > Drivers
> >
> > The reference compositor works with Intel, Radeon, and Nvidia
> > (Nouveau) open source drivers. [1]Nouveau + OpenGL clients hangs.
> >
> > XWayland
> >
> > XWayland, the ability to run X clients within Wayland, is
> > [2]currently broken, in the middle of transitioning to using a
> > special X window manager. [3]Tiago did some work on it, which has
> > not been committed. Other than that, DDX support for Intel video
> > exists, [4]a software implementation exists but may need updating,
> > and someone has done some work on Radeon but not released source.
> > Nvidia / Nouveau support hasn't been touched.
> >
> > Toolkits
> >
> > Wayland usability is mostly down to applications migrating to GTK3
> > and QT5.
> >
> > GTK+ 3.4.1 and QT5 appear to have complete Wayland support except
> > for client side decorations. EFL and Clutter appear to have
> > complete support.
> >
> > So any application should work with Wayland as long as it uses one
> > of these four toolkits, and it doesn't call any Xlib functions.
> > Unfortunately a number of GTK+ applications do call Xlib, through
> > gdk_x11_* functions, and they need to be wrapped in [5]build-time
> > and run-time backend checks.
> >
> > And while [6]GTK3 was released over a year ago, [7]QT5 only had
> > its first alpha release last week. While many GTK+ applications
> > haven't made the conversion yet, presumably Qt applications, for
> > the most part, haven't started.
> >
> > GTK+ 3.4.0 has a [8]bug causing it to break when the X11 and
> > Wayland backends are both built. The workaround has been applied
> > in master and will be included in the [9]3.4.1 release on April
> > 18th.
> >
> > The GTK graphics glitch was a [10]cairo-gl bug, easy enough to
> > avoid.
> >
> > Rob Bradford has a [11]branch of [12]gtk that doesn't require
> > cairo-gl, which will be merged with master once 3.4 is branched
> > off. I've tested it. This should allow Ubuntu to [13]enable the
> > Wayland backend in GTK in the October 2012 (12.10) release.
> >
> > Browsers
> >
> > The only web browser I've tested that works is qtwebkit, which is
> > included with the QT5 source. [14]Weston occasionally crashes when
> > running it. It seems likely that the [15]snowshoe browser works,
> > via QT5.
> >
> > The [16]webkitgtk browser doesn't work. As expected, the
> > [17]midori browser based on webkitgtk doesn't work.
> >
> > [18]Firefox has a long way to go.
> >
> > [19]Chrome / chromium might work, but I haven't seen how.
> >
> > Terminals
> >
> > weston-terminal is actually pretty decent.
> >
> > vte, based on gtk, works fine.
> >
> > [20]gnome-terminal seems likely to work, I just haven't tried
> > quite the right incantation yet.
> >
> > Surprisingly, there don't seem to be any terminal applications
> > written in Qt or EFL. I haven't tried [21]clutterm, which uses
> > Clutter, mostly because it says "This is a work in progress and
> > it's far from ready for every day use."
> >
> > Other Applications
> >
> > Of the 22 [22]gtk applications I tried from the default Ubuntu
> > Precise menu (html5 video), 9 worked, and 13 didn't due to using
> > Xlib calls. 41% worked as packaged by Ubuntu (after I rebuilt GTK
> > with --enable-wayland-backend).
> >
> > Open Bugs
> >
> > * [23]GTK+: Wayland and x11 backends simultaneously enabled is
> > broken.
> > * [24]Ubuntu: Enable wayland backend in GTK+
> > * [25]Totem: Add wayland support (remove Xlib calls).
> > * [26]WebKitGTK+: Enable wayland support (remove Xlib calls).
> >
> > The Nvidia proprietary + cairo-gl mess:
> > * [27]Cairo: Dynamically load libGL in cairo-gl
> > * [28]GTK+: Remove cairo-gl dependency from wayland backend,
> > fall back to software as weston does.
> > * [29]Debian packaging: Add support for versioned provides. This
> > is 15 years old.
> >
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48074
> > 2. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46743
> > 3.
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2012-April/002861.html
> > 4.
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2011-June/001163.html
> > 5. http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/ch24s02.html#id1502079
> > 6.
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2011-February/msg00020.html
> > 7. http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/04/03/qt-5-alpha/
> > 8. http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/ch24s02.html#id1502079
> > 9. https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree
> > 10. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48221
> > 11. https://github.com/rbradford/gtk/tree/wip/wayland-render-changes
> > 12.
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2012-April/002876.html
> > 13. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/954352/
> > 14. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47728
> > 15. http://snowshoe.qtlabs.org.br/
> > 16. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81456
> > 17. https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/975355
> > 18. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134
> > 19. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTc4NA
> > 20. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673323
> > 21. https://github.com/paradoxxxzero/clutterm
> > 22.
> http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/demos/2012-04-07-wayland-several-gtk-apps.html
> > 23. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672358
> > 24. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/954352
> > 25. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672735
> > 26. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81456
> > 27. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47480
> > 28. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672361
> > 29.
> http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/state/bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=7330
> > 30. http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/state/2012-03-24.html
> > 31. http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/
> >
> > --
> > "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
> > - Emiliano Zapata, Mexican Revolution Leader
> > http://www.ChaosReigns.com
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