Is Wayland without X11 matured

[Sathish Kumar Balasubramaniam -ERS, HCL Tech]

Thanks, Jasper and Daniel.

I was asking it from an IVI perspective.


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From: Daniel Stone [mailto:daniel at fooishbar.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 AM
To: Jasper St. Pierre
Cc: Sathish Kumar Balasubramaniam -ERS, HCL Tech; wayland-devel at lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: Is Wayland without X11 matured

Hi,

On 19 March 2014 13:18, Jasper St. Pierre <jstpierre at mecheye.net> wrote:
> For very simple use cases, it's fairly mature. You can use it on 
> embedded systems quite well.
>
> For complex desktops, it's not quite. There's a lot of protocols that 
> are traditionally in something like the ICCCM or EWMH that we have to 
> reinvent on Wayland.

Depends how you define complexity. :) In this case, I guess you mean complexity in the shell / user-facing window management / user interaction case. You can construct quite complex usecases that don't place such heavy and complex demands on window management just fine; for example, it's being shipped in cars, set-top boxes, etc.  These are all quite complex, but don't have those desktop shell requirements around window management.

Cheers,
Daniel

> We're working on them all the time, so it's maturing very quickly, but 
> there are still issues here and there.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Sathish Kumar Balasubramaniam -ERS, 
> HCL Tech <b-sathishkumar at hcl.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to know, for 2D and 3D apps, using Wayland without X11 
>> is matured and successful or still it needs to get matured ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> B.Sathish Kumar
>>
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