Proposal for better collaboration on xdg-shell

[Jasper St. Pierre]

Yeah. I think some people were assuming xdg-shell was final, and I was
its gatekeeper, and it's what GNOME wants and you have to fight to get
other things in.

That wasn't my intention at all! My goal was to build a solid base for
the rest of the DEs to eventually work more like how Bryce wants, but
I was imagining it would work a lot more informally, sort of like how
wm-spec-list works.

If there are *any* controversial features in xdg-shell that you don't
like, please let me know! The goal here is to make sure that it's a
good base for everybody, so by the time you roll around to
implementing it, xdg-shell is exactly what you want, and you can start
with custom extensions to implement stuff that's specific to your DE.
Even GTK+ has plenty of features in a custom gtk-shell that other DEs
probably don't care about.

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:10:08 -0700
> Bryce Harrington <bryce at osg.samsung.com> wrote:
>
>> A while back Pekka asked if I'd help look at xdg-shell and how we can
>> ensure it really does become a cross-desktop standard.  I promised to
>> engage with the EFL folks and get their feedback, which I posted
>> recently.
>
> <snip>
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2015-April/021465.html
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Bryce wrote a good and essentially simple proposal for getting things
> rolling again. However, it turns out that my and his underlying
> assumptions were not exactly true. We assumed that desktop projects
> want to go forward all the time, on their own schedule. To support
> that, Bryce wrote this proposal.
>
> Since then in IRC, GNOME (with Jasper's voice) has said they can
> actually wait for other DEs, especially KDE, to get on board.
>
> So it seems the current plan is to keep xdg-shell in limbo at least
> until KDE people can focus on it properly. And other DE projects, too.
> In other words, not to hurry, but think things through with all major
> players.
>
> Just letting you all know and collecting a hopefully good selection of
> CCs to get the teams covered.
>
>
> Thanks,
> pq



-- 
  Jasper