Enhanced Trash functionality

p.carsten at arcor.de p.carsten at arcor.de
Thu Nov 27 18:57:07 EET 2003


Hi folks,
interesting thoughts about the trash. Is it not just the undelete feature you are missing? Well, I allways thought of the trashbin as just another M$ example how to not fix the real problem but to pretend to be "innovative" and pitch a new "feature" or "technologie".

Wouldn't you like a cool undelete feature on the filesystem level? Otherwise I bet when I have the need to recover a file I will have  forgotten to use the "tra" or the app just hasn't had support for it or for any other non transparent tool.

In storage recovery I see three prinicpal issues.
1) Make latest state robust against technical failures (use raid-mirror or distributet fs i.e. intermezzo)
2) Make latest state robust against human failures and malware (fs undelete)
3) Make older states available "version control" (occasional plain backups, snapshoting or best "copy on write fs's")

If there is a good transparent solution to 2) unfortunately I haven't heard of it yet.
For 3) I run this cool rsync/hardlink snapshot method from http:/www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots (Rob Bos' Package) every hour. With it I "fade out" old versions and deleted files in max. 18 month, depending on the time and duration of existance.

The trashbin would just have to be a frontend showing the user's deleted files on the /home filesystem ("ls -R --deleted"?). They should be available read only for him through the fs anyway.

Peter -- Thinkin' more the unix-way?









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