hicolor icon theme clarifications

[Rodney Dawes]

On Mër , 2004-06-09 at 15:00 +0200, Daniel Taylor wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 21:34 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> > On Hën , 2004-06-07 at 20:36 +0300, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> > >         How are mimetype icons be named?
> > 
> > MIME type icons are named gnome-mime-foo-bar in Gnome. I am not sure
> > what they are named like in KDE. See my other mail(s) where I provided
> > a list of about 300 icon names that we can standardize on for all
> > desktops. I would like more actual discussion on those, but it looks
> > as if that isn't going to happen. If some discusson doesn't start soon,
> > I'm just going to start implementing a standard, and that will be that.
> 
> First, I see no point in having gnome-mime-*, kde-mime-*, foo-mime-*,
> etc... It should just be mime/x-application, mime/text, etc... IMO (like
> in your spec).

Right, though I think we want to do "text-unknown" for the fallback text
icon if the theme doesn't provide a "text-specific-format" icon, for
example. I'll add some more stuff to the proposed list soon. I was just
saying how Gnome currently works here, not how it should ideally
work (which is of course, how it will hopefully work soon). :)

> Second, you never replied to my other mail about unifying theming across
> common desktops and applications.

I have now. I have been extremely busy this past week, and have many
e-mails still marked as important that I haven't replied to.

>  I see no point to keeping everything
> seperate. GNOME/GTK and KDE should be able to use the same theme. xffm
> (from XFCE) should be able to read the mime section of that same theme,
> xfce-panel should be able to read the categories section (using your
> icon naming spec). The actions section should include icons for
> browsers, multimedia, coding, etc... Once a spec is established and a
> library for accessing it from any application is coded it would be
> trivial to add new icons to the standard when they are needed.
> It seems to me that your spec doesn't help in unifying theming. Am I
> wrong?

Standardized icon names is the primary problem with sharing icon themes
between desktops and applications. The library for accessing it, should
be the icon theme implementation in the toolkit. There are no technical
barriers to using standardized names with the current implementations,
as far as I know. Of course, I only know the code for the GTK+ icon
theme implementation. GTK+ still doesn't use the icon theme to override
the stock icons it provides though, as far as I can tell. If it does,
then please correct me, and let's get started on agreeing on the names,
and implmenting the solutions for keeping API compatibility, until such
times as when we can drop that compatibility.

-- dobey

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