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Alexander Larsson alexl at
Tue Nov 8 00:45:21 PST 2005

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 11:14 +0100, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> > > Think about it:
> > > On the Windows plattform the Tango icon theme will look alien. Instead of
> > > looking alien the ISV will prefer trying to give the application a
> > > distinct look which will promote its own visual identity.
> > > So trying to appeal to ISV's is doesn't make sense here.
> > You have a very narrow-minded view of what an ISV is.  
> Thanks for the flowers! If my text covers mostly proprietary / commercial 
> software then this is not about being narrow-minded but because all the other 
> cases are usually "trivially" handled already.
> Most developers on will either 
> a) use KDE or Gnome libraries and therefore get icons using the iconloader. 
> Most icons they need _are_ usually shipped with the default icontheme. And 
> those extra icons which they need are usually abstract enough that they 
> usually don't follow a specific style.
> b) adhere to the default icontheme of the respective desktop environment that 
> uses the toolkit of the application to integrate it as good as possible with 
> it.
> c) not care and just choose what they like. 

The problem is new icons, such as the application icon that ISVs need to
create. b) can be easily done by installing desktop specific icons into
the right desktop-specific icon themes. However, as Jonathan said, you
can't expect to target all existing themes, so you need to do a
"generic" icon for hicolor.

Sure, you can a) "hope its abstract" or c) "not care", but I'm sure at
least some ISVs are actually interested in doing better than that.

I'm not saying Tango is right or whatever. I'm not involved in that in
any way and don't have much of an opinion on the details. I'm just
agreeing with Jonathan that the problem *does* exist.

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