[XESAM] Moving business elsewhere?

Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com
Mon Jun 11 06:16:20 PDT 2007


2007/6/11, Jos van den Oever <jvdoever at gmail.com>:
>
> 2007/6/11, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com>:
> > 2007/6/10, Jos van den Oever <jvdoever at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > 2007/6/10, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com>:
> > > > Hi Xesames and xdg subscribers,
> > > >
> > > > Our project creation request[1] has been stalled for almost four
> months
> > now.
> > > > I really don't think we can keep on abusing the xdg list anymore,
> and as
> > it
> > > > appears we are not going to get a xesam at freedesktop.org list I think
> we
> > have
> > > > to move our business elsewhere if something doesn't happen really
> soon
> > (like
> > > > in the coming week).
> > > >
> > > > We have multiple other needs like a shared version control system, a
> > > > website, a wiki, and a bug tracker.
> > > >
> > > > I have bought http://xesam.org and we can have hosting there as
> well.
> > > > Whether or not we will actually use xesam.org as the host or just as
> a
> > link
> > > > is open for discussion. Google groups have grown popular recently
> and
> > > > Canonicals Launchpad is not a bad product either.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if this should be reflected in our namespacing. We have
> > dbus
> > > > paths and xml namespaces to think about. I would not like to point
> an
> > xml
> > > > namespace at some place where we cannot put something, on the other
> hand
> > I
> > > > would hate to strip the org.freedesktop from our dbus paths, I would
> > hate it
> > > > even more if we used intermixed namespacing of xesam.org and
> > > > xesam.freedesktop.org.
> > > >
> > > > Anyways, comments welcome. A swift resultion of bug 10114 is even
> more
> > > > welcome.
> > >
> > > I really think we should escalate this. fd.o is the place for this
> > > stuff. If they are so *** lame, somebody should have his butt kicked.
> > > How hard is it to set up a mailinglist  + svn?
> >
> > Let's not make this a shouting contest :-)
> >
> > I don't think that anyone find it hard to create the new project, but
> just
> > that everyone is tied on all fronts. That just doesn't cut it for the
> > various related projects that have started to block on this of course.
> We
> > need a resolution, and we need it fast.
> >
> > Maybe we can keep everything in xesam.freedesktop.org namespace and just
> use
> > xesam.org for hosting right now. It would be required that all http
> queries
> > on xesam.freedesktoo.org was forwarded to xesam.org, but that is
> probably
> > just as time-consuming as creating the xesam project in the first
> place...
>
> If we can get a DNS entry that points xesam.fd.o to x.o, we're done
> too. Then we're our own boss, but profit from the fd.o namespace.


Given the response time of the fdo administration, I actually think this is
the preferred solution.

Cheers,
Mikkel
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