Systray specification

Tuomo Valkonen tuomov at
Fri Mar 7 23:05:39 PST 2008

On 2008-03-08, Toma <tomhaste at> wrote:
> Hello,
> Let me start by saying that I am not a developer or a programmer. Just
> a humble user and would like to see some discussion and development of
> the systray. Im from the Enlightenment community and its common
> knowledge in the community that the systray is not a very nice
> standard and as such, is not implemented in E17. 

The systray spec is utter and total crap, and Ion also will not
support it. It's over-engineered shit, and the required XEmbed
in particular is over-specific NIH shit, designed by illiterates
who never even bothered browsing the X documentation, and 
certainly stopped before thinks like XGrabKey, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, 
the ICCCM, etc.

But that's all typical FDO... typical modern FOSS partices.
Even Xrandr was turned into Xinerama 2.0, and Xinerama is
the definition of brain damage. Separate root windows make
a lot of sense, the artificial restriction on reparenting
should just be removed (and the count made dynamic...
just XCreateWindow with parent None).


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