Systray specification

Matthias Clasen mclasen at
Sun Mar 9 15:14:04 PDT 2008

On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 07:05 +0000, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
> On 2008-03-08, Toma <tomhaste at> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Let me start by saying that I am not a developer or a programmer. Just
> > a humble user and would like to see some discussion and development of
> > the systray. Im from the Enlightenment community and its common
> > knowledge in the community that the systray is not a very nice
> > standard and as such, is not implemented in E17. 
> The systray spec is utter and total crap, and Ion also will not
> support it. It's over-engineered shit, and the required XEmbed
> in particular is over-specific NIH shit, designed by illiterates
> who never even bothered browsing the X documentation, and 
> certainly stopped before thinks like XGrabKey, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, 
> the ICCCM, etc.

Great way to make your point in cogent and civilized manner...

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