Draft "StatusNotifierIcon" broken by design

Aaron J. Seigo aseigo at kde.org
Wed May 19 12:02:53 PDT 2010

On May 19, 2010, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> yes. the problem is that the spec simply does not consider the cases
> outlined by wolfgang and me. in at least one of them, the fallback won't
> be activated, because the d-bus method will *appear* to be available.

Which case is this? (You seem to have it clear in mind, and I'd prefer to save 
the time wading through months of email archives to find it.)

> at the very least, the spec should go into *lots* of detail about
> activating the fallback under untypical conditions.

If there are details missing for you, please let us know what they are, either 
by asking concrete questions that we can provide answers to in the spec or 
with example text that provides the answers directly.

> > It's a more general problem that will only be addressed by making it
> > easy (as in "transparent") to route DBus over the same network that
> > the X session is on.
> yes, and it's a hard problem.


> i for one would prefer solving the fundamental problem before building
> upon it.

Unfortunately, that would likely mean never building on it. I find that 
fundamental problems that don't get sorted after years of waiting around only 
tend to get addressed once we start using the technology in question 
extensively, which brings people to work on it because they now have a good 
reason to. If we all just wait around, nothing happens, nothing gets done, and 
our platform stagnates. Not good.

Aaron J. Seigo
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