Binary name in the desktop file

[Jerome Leclanche]

On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Liam R E Quin <liam at holoweb.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 21:15 +0000, Jerome Leclanche wrote:
>> For the exact same reason menus and any kind of application runners
>> do. That is to say, not that much. It's needed for the rarer case
>> where the application accepts different parameters/different command
>> line depending on whether it has input args or not.
>
> If you go to the gnome Applications menu and launch a program, it has no
> file arguments (it might have arguments, e.g. -gui to show the graphical
> user interface, but no files).
>
> I'm unclear about the case where this isn't sufficient.
>
> [...]
>
>>  I understand the inherent
>> need to be conservative in a spec, but more often than not there is a
>> vicious circle building up of "We don't need it that much, so let's do
>> without it" -> "Now we need it more, but it's too late to change it".
>
> This is always a difficulty with standards.
>
> The way around it is to try and make extensible standards, but the
> desktop spec has only limited extensibility.
>
>>  It does seem to
>> be that changes only happen once kde/gnome needs them.
>
> Or presumably other desktop environments if they can give a clear
> explanation of why something is needed, e.g.
> * what exactly does the user do
> * what currently happens
> * what do you want to happen
> * how do you think that should be achieved
>
> instead of throwing jargon around (intents, runners) :-)
>
> I'm getting the impression runners are some kind of KDE plugin thing,
> but I'm lost as to why they are relevant to a cross-desktop spec;
> I don't know what intents are at all in this context.

Are my emails getting lost? Because this question has been asked and
answered twice in this thread already...

In any case this is the stellar opposite of productive; I'm leaving
this alone for the time being.

>
> Xross-desktop standards really only work when multiple desktops need to
> do something, and there's a need to share part of the implementation.
>
> Liam
>
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J. Leclanche