R7.1 roadmap, and additional goals

[Philip Prindeville]

Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:53:36AM -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>   
>> Ok, so the next question is...  Can someone create a ChangesForX11R72 so we
>> can starting making a roadmap?
>>     
>
> You can, if you want ...
>
>   
>> And do we want to have a working group (and its own mailing list) for 
>> the various
>> issues regarding supporting encoder, transmitter, etc. modularity?  I'd 
>> like to make
>> this a closed list because there are a lot of people with strong and/or 
>> conflicting
>> opinions... that might not have any compunctions about inducing 
>> paralysis into the
>> project... to be quite blunt.
>>     
>
> This is a horrendously bad idea.  If we have problems, then we have
> problems.  Hiding them is not (repeat: not) a winning idea.  It only
> discourages from getting fixed.
>   

It's not about hiding problems.

It's about having a stake in results, versus being able to be an 
obstructionist
without any repercussions.


> Also, if we're incapable of dealing with robust technical discussion,
> then we have bigger problems to deal with.
>   

I've seen a lot of shooting down of ideas without coming up with better 
ones.


> And, lastly, I don't think new lists are, in general, a good idea: look
> at how populated xorg-arch and xevie are, to pick two random examples.
> They're both more or less dead, despite the subject group being
> important.
>   

That's the symptom, not the problem.


>> I'd prefer that the group be limited to those that want to see a timely 
>> result only,
>> rather than being locked in discussion stalemate...
>>     
>
> You can always just ignore the pointless trolls and get on with it ...
>   

I suppose I can.  I don't know if everyone can.  There seems to be a 
fair amount of
axe-grinding in the air.  ;-)

Maybe we can hang a sign that says "leave your baggage outside".

-Philip


>> I'm ambivalent about whether the list should be viewable by anyone... 
>> but definitely
>> want members-only posting.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>     
>
> No.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>