XKB and the Dutch
rene.herman at gmail.com
Fri Feb 23 10:57:07 PST 2007
On 02/23/2007 07:24 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> AFAIK, the source of xkeyboard-config is still on Freedesktop CVS, and
> the Dutch file you may need to edit is at
Unfortunately not -- the source of the problem is the fact that nobody
in the Netherlands uses a Dutch keyboard. 99% of Dutch computer users
use a "standard" US international keyboard. In fact, I have seen _no_
Dutch keyboards in use probably in over 10 years by now so even that 99%
is significantly understating it.
This fact is not widely known internationally since, as you point out
there _is_ a Dutch keyboard in (paper) existence, and due to the very
fact that the Dutch have always used US international keyboards, they
them selves have grown completely accustomed to not being able to type
everything they want -- I've never been able to type my first name
(René) directly for example. So we also don't complain...
Enter the Euro. As a EU rule, it's sitting on the "AltGr position" of
the E on our keyboards (and/or on that same position on the 5 for
keyboards that were made just before that EU rule was drafted) and in
Windows, AltGr-E and AltGr-5 indeed produce the EuroSign.
The US layout in X does not have it there though -- the "intl" variant
of the us layout does, but is unworkable. It's almost possible to add
the EuroSign to either key ourselves by using "XkbLayout" "us" with
but although this works, this makes the xkbcomp compiler complain -- see
Moreover, I feel that not an entire country should be expected to use
something like the above "XkbOptions" line anyway -- what we really
want/need is a "XkbVariant" "euro" (or "XkbVariant" "nl", for all I
care) of the "us" layout so that us poor Dutch folk can get our keyboard
functioning without black X config magic.
Thanks for the opportunity to explain once more. I'll now go and try the
list Alan pointed me to...
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