Makes me wonder if Linux will ever be ready for the common desktop, not to mention laptop

[Chris Pemberton]

Daniel Kasak wrote:
> Only somewhat complete'? That could be said of *any* piece 
> of software.

This isn't just *any* piece of software; this is the Intel code that 
drives our laptop displays.  Intel takes cash in exchange for their 
hardware, so it is OK to expect full functionality.  Just because you 
can subscribe to a mailing list and watch bugs get patched and features 
added doesn't mean you should have to.

.... shitty drivers... ATI...joke...

I never accused any drivers, Intel or ATI, of being shitty or a joke. 
If in fact ATI's drivers perform poorly, then ATI has failed to provide 
their customers with a good product.  Those customers should should give 
Intel a try; at least they are not hiding from their customers.

> whereas you're coming from the point of view where *everything* must be 100% complete, 
> optimised, perfect, etc, otherwise ... it's just not good enough.

Yes, I expect this from every product I purchase: 100% functional and 
complete.  My TV didn't come with a soldering iron and my car didn't 
come with a set of tools.  I guess you could argue that I'm using this 
laptop in a way that was never intended (Linux), but its 2007 and Linux 
is not a hobby anymore.

> Also keep in mind that X isn't a stationary target for driver 
> developers, and changes in X's architecture and feature set mean than 
> drivers have to be rewritten to work, or to take advantage of new 
> features, etc. So you're never going to get a 'complete' driver.

Also keep in mind that Windows isn't a stationary target for driver 
developers, and changes in Window's architecture and feature set mean 
that drivers have to be rewritten to work, or to take advantage of new 
features, etc. So you're never going to get a 'complete' Windows driver 
either.

Intel's Windows drivers appear flawless, complete, and ship on time; 
because Windows users demand it.  So they get it.  Yet Linux users who 
ask for the same quality are labeled unreasonable, disrespectful, or 
technically challenged; not by the Intel developers, but by fellow Linux 
users.  I guess I just don't "get it".

I'm done.

Chris