airlied at gmail.com
Mon Jul 21 05:18:15 PDT 2008
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Thomas Ilnseher <illth at gmx.de> wrote:
> Am Montag, den 21.07.2008, 09:28 +0200 schrieb Arne Schmitz:
>> Am Montag, 21. Juli 2008 01:43:15 schrieb Aaron Plattner:
>> > > I appreciate your decision to ship a binary-only driver. It's not my
>> > > concern, nor is it my place to tell you (NVIDIA) what to do. X.Org's
>> > > license even allows this sort of thing, for good or bad. (Perhaps if we
>> > > had better documentation, the SI could merely be that: a _sample_
>> > > implementation.)
>> > >
>> > > What you're doing, aside from being partially pointless (this will
>> > > rarely work in master due to ABI changes, and no-one outside of some
>> > > admittedly very nice buildings in Mountain View can recompile), is
>> > It's not pointless, it provides improved functionality for users who
>> > install the driver with a supported server. If it's not supported, it
>> > falls back to nv, just like it would without this change.
>> I'm a user and I second Aaron's opinion. Please leave the autoconfig support
>> for nvidia drivers in, if you care one bit for your users.
> The only thing I could say is "+1". I'm also a User of the Nvidia binary
> By using the nv driver, Nvidia cards are "unusable". There is only some
> very basic 2D acceleration. So if one cares for open source drivers,
> (ie. because one's working with GIT Master) one doesn't buy nvidia
> >From a mere technical standpoint, I think that hardcoded stuff in the
> binary X server is bad. Any possibility where this stuff is stored in a
> separate text file would be better, if you absolutely don't want to
> hardcode the support for the nvidia driver.
(oops gmail noob, originally sent to Thomas)
We store that stuff in xorg.conf. I'm not sure the obsessive we must
not have an xorg.conf is coming from.
Now that doesn't seem like a crazy amount of work to deal with the
Also for the one distro that ships this stuff, they currently ship 3
nvidia binaries, so this wouldn't help
in their case anyways. Also someone could just write a driver wrapper
that picks the correct nvidia binary or
nv or whatever, but really this isn't X.orgs problem and the X.org
"sample implementation" should not be providing
services to drivers we cannot distribute with the SI.
also can people stop voting, this was never going to be a democratic process.
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