[Clipart] Old Books with illustrations

Sat Apr 28 09:21:30 PDT 2007

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Public_domain_image_resources

Seems like a whole lot of source one can start proceeding with, some
really good ones also :)

On 4/28/07, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 21:36 -0400, Russell Ossendryver wrote:
> > >Now whether someone downloading an image, making a sketch of it using
> > >their favorite SVG editor, and then uploading it to OpenClipArt.org is
> > >covered under their personal use clause, is up for debate.
> >
> > Yes that is a debate :)  I would think that one can. I little futher
> > investigating, they are charging a commercial fee for High Resolution
> > image  they will deliver.
> >
> > The public domian images scanned are available from many other sources
> > who have also scanned the same image. For example:
> >
> > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?keyword=Brookshaw%2C+George%2C&submit.x=20&submit.y=13
> >
> > http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-47%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=+George+Brookshaw&btnG=Search+Images
>
> That's what it sounds like to me. If really curious ask on the
> cc-community list for clarification: http://creativecommons.org/discuss
>
> To me, and I'm not a lawyer, the statement by NYPL sounds very badly
> crafted. I think Russell is right on with this point though that it is
> public domain, but they charge a fee for any services to copy, provide
> and I think are weakly confusing people to feel like they have to use
> their service...
>
> I think proceed!
>
> Jon
>
> >
> > On 4/25/07, Roan Horning <Roan at horning.us> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > See the "Conditions of Use" section on their website at url
> > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dghelp_using.cfm
> > >
> > > Here's the gist of it from that section:
> > >
> > >   CONDITIONS OF USE
> > >
> > >   NYPL Digital Gallery contains hundreds of thousands of digital images
> > > of historical materials from the Research Libraries' and Branch
> > > Libraries' original, rare, and specialized holdings. Images may be
> > > freely downloaded for personal, research, and study purposes only.
> > >
> > >   As the physical rights holder of this material, most of which is in the
> > > public domain for copyright purposes, the Library charges a usage fee
> > > to license an image for commercial use (defined above). The usage fee
> > > is not a copyright fee. You are free to obtain a copy of these images
> > > from a source other than NYPL. Usage fees help ensure that the Library
> > > is able to continue to acquire, preserve and provide access to its
> > > collections.
> > >
> > >   For information on ordering images and permissions, including but not
> > > limited to any type of publication or commercial use, contact The
> > > Library's Photographic Services & Permissions office.
> > >
> > > Now whether someone downloading an image, making a sketch of it using
> > > their favorite SVG editor, and then uploading it to OpenClipArt.org is
> > > covered under their personal use clause, is up for debate.  It might be
> > > best to contact them and see what their position on this is.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Roan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Great link.
> > > >
> > > > The http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/ also scan pic of old
> > > books, They say the images are Public Domian but have terms for
> > > > commercial uses?
> > > >
> > > > On 4/25/07, Ryan <ryan at lennox.com.au> wrote:
> > > >> Thanks for the link Ted! Some of those piccies are pretty good...
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> ryanlerch
> > > >>
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: clipart-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org [mailto:clipart-
> > > >> > bounces at lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Ted Gould
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 2:39 AM
> > > >> > To: Clipart List
> > > >> > Subject: [Clipart] Old Books with illustrations
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hey everyone,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I got an e-mail with Liam Quin's signature:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- Start Sig ---
> > > >> > Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/
> > > Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/
> > > >> > Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org
> > > >> > --- End Sig ---
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Which has an interesting site that he works on with pictures from old
> > > books.  TONS of really neat illustrations.  These should be out of
> > > copyright, so they are prime candidates for vectorization.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >               --Ted
> > > >> >
> > > >> > PS - Probably should have put the sig markers in XML considering
> > > who's sig it is ;)
> > > >>
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