[Clipart] [Open Clip Art Library] clker.com - part 3

[Greg Bulmash]

Accidentally only sent this to momo

On Feb 5, 2008 3:35 PM, Greg Bulmash wrote:
> A lot of people find my library useful, and they find the Flash
> drawing tool useful.
>
> By your lights, since the OCAL work is public domain and I'm providing
> value to my users, I should feel no debt to OCAL for all the work its
> contributors put into making it possible to have this huge collection
> of clip art that helps me have a better, more profitable site.
>
> I believe that when a community creates so much value and you avail
> yourself of it to such a large extent, you owe a karmic debt to the
> community.  That's why I've uploaded a number of images, worked on
> couple of wiki pages, and donated a little cash to "getting back
> online" effort last year.  I'm not dedicating my life to it, but I've
> given back to the community that gave so much to me.
>
> I wouldn't consider a casual user a leech, but someone who uses a huge
> chunk of the library and makes money from it can afford to donate some
> or time back to continuing to improve the library.
>
> He has no legal obligation to do so, but so what?  Neither is any
> other contributor.
>
> - Greg
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 2:17 PM,  <momo at lumenstudio.net> wrote:
> > > I try to contribute back to OCAL to not be a leech like cker, though.
> >
> > I don't really understand why you call clker.com a "leech". Whoever created
> > this website has all the right to do anything he wants with the cliparts
> > since they are all public domain. And there is no harm in having another
> > library on the web that mirrors the contents of OCAL. Actually I had a look
> > at clker.com and I find it quite useful, since the creator managed to create
> > a whole bunch of usabilities that are on the OCAL todo list for quite some
> > time:
> > - searching among tags
> > - automatically generated ODG and PNG (more than that the PNGs are generated
> > in 3 different sizes!!)
> > - a functioning voting system (OCAL's one is broken since the move to OSUOL
> > servers and looks like it will still be broken for quite some time...)
> >
> > So basically clker.com is IMO more user-friendly right now and once again
> > there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to call this site a leech.
> >
> > Molumen
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Greg Bulmash" <oneminuteinspirations at gmail.com>
> > To: <clipart at lists.freedesktop.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Clipart] [Open Clip Art Library] clker.com - part 3
> >
> >
> > > I've been using thousands of pieces of OCAL artwork at FunDraw.com...
> > >
> > > http://www.fundraw.com/clipart
> > >
> > > It's mixed in with pieces I've picked up from other PD clipart sites,
> > > stuff I generated myself (either through vectorizing old art or using
> > > my very rudimentary skills), and stuff I had drawn by other artists.
> > > It's all categorized and keyworded and I offer it in JPG (500 pixel)
> > > and PNG (transparent - 3500 pixel) sizes.
> > >
> > > The reason I don't have it all is mainly because the FunDraw Flash
> > > application and ImageMagick based renderer need it in EPS and SWF
> > > formats.  Illustrator's export of SVG to SWF isn't always perfect and
> > > their export to EPS has more issues than it's worth describing, so I
> > > have to use Inkscape for the EPS conversion, but that occasionally
> > > delivers less than optimal conversions.
> > >
> > > I try to contribute back to OCAL to not be a leech like cker, though.
> > >
> > > - Greg
> >
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