[Clipart] clipart Digest, Vol 60, Issue 46

[Jon Phillips]

All is well. I'm just happy you guys are all passionate about these
things and talking!

Jon

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok then. :)
>
> Sorry if I over-reacted, or upset people. Now I'll just get on the job of
> making clipart :)
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
>>
>> Agree overall...also, DMCA safe harbor provisions give 36-72 hours to
>> respond to a challenge against something in our system...that is for a
>> counter-claim (aka, a response). Then, there is another window of
>> response from the party making the claim...regardless, 36-72 hours to
>> respond or take down something is the generally accepted length of
>> time if we have a problem...fwiw.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmca
>>
>> This is part of the innovation that allows for USA to have so many
>> user-generated content sites, like youtube, etc
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> 2009/3/25 John Olsen <johnny_automatic at mac.com>:
>> >
>> > On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:18 AM, clipart-request at lists.freedesktop.org
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > From: chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
>> >
>> > I can't comment on Obama as I dont know US Govt rules on PD and
>> > presidential
>> >
>> > figures.
>> >
>> >
>> > First, people's own images are not copyright issue ,but privacy issue.
>> >  Public figures do not have the same rights and thus images of them are
>> > generally protected
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not an expert on copyright, and I am not a lawyer, however I did
>> > study
>> >
>> > copyright in University on my Advanced Diploma in Design and Multimedia.
>> >
>> > About the other Darth Vader pictures, after reading Lucasfilms copyright
>> >
>> > statement I can tell you that unless they got permission to use him,
>> > then
>> >
>> > they probably are breaking copyright......I feel that maybe some of my
>> > comments are or might be taken the wrong way,
>> >
>> > so I'll clarify that now. What I'm doing is being a "devil's advocate."
>> > I'm
>> >
>> > being hard-nosed about it because, especially in America, I've seen
>> > people
>> >
>> > get sued over the stupidest little thing.
>> >
>> >
>> > I have never heard of a case of someone being sued straight out and I
>> > work
>> > in a field that blatantly steals images and logos for their own purposes
>> > (
>> > action sports like surf and skate).  The standard procedure is to send a
>> > cease and desist letter requesting the immediate removal of an image.
>> >  Even
>> > the most rabid copyright protectors like Disney do this.  Nicu's image
>> > is a
>> > Nicu drawing inspired by the Star Wars world.  No one would confuse it
>> > with
>> > the actual Lucasfilm art.  BTW, we have actual Lucas film images here in
>> > the
>> > library - those images were specifically placed in the PD in the USA as
>> > drawings for Star Wars patented toys.  All images used to support a
>> > patent
>> > claim in the US must be placed in the PD.
>> >
>> > That brings me to the point about "especially in America" and US Govt
>> > rules.
>> >  In the US ANYTHING produced by the government that isn't a security
>> > issue
>> > is the property of the citizens of the US and is thus placed in the
>> > public
>> > domain.  So many of the images here were produced with our tax dollars
>> > and
>> > we Americans can use them as we want.  This is very different from
>> > countries
>> > like Australia where the govt. specifically retains copyright on all of
>> > its
>> > work.
>> >
>> > John Olsen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jon Phillips
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>
> --
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>



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Jon Phillips
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