[Xorg] CVS HEAD -- ftfuncs.c:931: error: structure has no membernamed `find_sbit_image'

Jim Gettys Jim.Gettys at hp.com
Tue Aug 3 10:29:38 PDT 2004

I think the solution to these problems lay on the shoulders of
both us and Freetype.  We've accepted the dependency; it
is incumbent on us to also help in the testing and work
in the freetype project to help the situation.

I think we can/should help the process; by better testing of
Freetype CVS we can help reduce the breakage caused by
unintended changes upstream.  I think by working with/in
the freetype project the situation can be improved.

One thing we can/should do is have several of
our tinderbox systems configured to be using freetype CVS
(one 32 bit, one 64 bit); then at least compilation issues 
can be discovered before they are shipped, and monitored easily 
by Freetype developers (or if freetype prefers, they'd be 
welcome to run X tinderclients).

Other sorts of bugs, of course, will remain, but at least
incomptible build situations should't appear to surprise us.

Given the slow release cycle of X in the past and only
occasional testing this approach has not been feasible in
the past; it is now, and we should seize the opportunity.

Note, however, that much this current issue arose mostly because
we asked that the changes be pushed upstream (the interface
used privately to become public), and we flailed around dealing
with whether to support older-rev freetypes.
                           - Jim

On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 06:00, Egbert Eich wrote: 
> Keith Whitwell writes:
>  > Egbert Eich wrote:
>  > 
>  > It's interesting to see X.org work this problem through.  One thing that 
>  > strikes me about the process is that people here are bending over backwards to 
>  > avoid suprising the user, which is laudable.  What strikes me is that we 
>  > aren't getting the same support from our 'upstream' projects - while there has 
>  > been some flamage within X.org, I can't help but thinking freetype needs a 
>  > boot up the backside if they really are introducing API changes and binary 
>  > incompatibilities in point releases -- what's going on, what's being done 
>  > about it, who takes responsibility?
>  > 
> Keith, 
> you are right. We have several people here who have interacted with
> the freetype folks in the past. Maybe they would volunteer to do
> that. I'd also take responsibility however I feel we should first
> discuss what we should ask them for and what we can offer to help 
> them. 
> It is not easy to always ensure full ABI compatibility. With the 
> short release cycles of the freetype project there is not much 
> time to give their code thorough testing.
> Cheers,
> 	Egbert.
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