Question about the future of Xorg

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2025, gene heskett wrote:

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> On 7/7/25 00:05, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
>> 
>> With KDE (kubuntu) there is "Discover" package manager that runs from user 
>> space. It asks you for root password before you install.
>> 
>> I actually thought that's how synaptic worked as well, but maybe I forget.
>> 
>> Starting X apps as another user will not work unless you share your 
>> Xauthority file or disable that.
>
> I thank you for your interest.
>
> Disable?

This is for X only, not Wayland, and one can use "xhost -".

But on my system sudo sets up XAUTHORITY variable so it is not necessary. 
I only use it when I need to start something from another user or lost the 
environment and ssh -Y won't do.

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> How?
>
> I'm the only user, and I can sudo anything else UNTIL I try to run synaptic 
> from a shell. Its available in the bookworm menu's and ask's me for my usr pw 
> and then runs ok on Wayland. But running it directly from a shell with sudo 
> is denied with a snotty msg I assume comes from some non gui app that has yet 
> to reveal its identity.  Using the mouse to activate the menu is frustrating 
> because the mouse, despite being programmed for 1 pixel which should make it 
> slow, actually moves 20 or more pixels just for hovering my hand above it, 
> true with every mouse, mostly logitek M325's, that I have, making it damned 
> near impossible to actually click on the correct name in the menu's gui.  
> copy/paste opertions have to be undone and re-pasted several times to get it 
> right. It has moved the pointer enough to miss the name by up to 4 names. And 
> this bullet-like speed mouse seems not to be debian related, I'm running 3 3d 
> printers with armbian, jammy is usable but nobel is spastic often refusing to 
> redraw the mouse and all 3 with suitable mice, can move the pointer over all 
> of a 27" monitors with under 2" of mouse motion. I am considering redoing the 
> whole front end using jammy only.

I am not sure I understood it about the mouse - it moves too fast on a 
specific window?

Vladimir Dergachev

>
> I also run 4 metal carving machines with linuxcnc, all running Wheezy as its 
> taken years to get linuxcnc running with python3. Those are also using the 
> logitek M325 mouse but on Wheezy they are good. I'm on speaking terms with 
> OpenSCAD.
>
>> best
>
> Thank you Vladimir Dergachev
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET
>
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