[Xesam] oscaf/xesam ontology merge: who is going to maintain/edit what?

[Leo Sauermann]

Hi,

Stefan Decker is a busy person, he won't react to every mail you send to 
his address.
(actually, this is the reason why he usually does not answer emails, 
because so many people do send him)

We agreed with him to move the domain and server into the oscaf 
ownership, which I will help doing now.
both domains are of interest and both are in his hands:
* semanticdesktop.org
* oscaf.org
Giving shell accounts to those machines to masses of people does not 
help, so I wonder who exactly needs an account.
Once I have root to the machines, I can see what we do, I am still in 
the process of doing that (and a lot of other things...)

about GIT:
we need an apache server we can tweak until it does what we need. We 
must host the ontologeis on semanticdesktop.org and up until now, we 
also have a big community website there, which is a bit dormant.

i see no reason to use gitorious to host ontologies and standardization 
namespaces, that would be dangerous. I would rather do it as we have 
done in the last three years, we use a cronjob to copy the latest-from-trunk
https://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/repos/trunk/ontologies-public/
to here:
http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/

that has the advantage to have a nice SVN for working, and a stable HTTP 
server for hosting. If the subversion breaks, it does not drag down the 
hosting with it.

best
Leo


It was Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen who said at the right time 11.06.2009 
07:19 the following words:
> 2009/6/10 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com>:
>   
>> 2009/6/10 Sebastian Trüg <strueg at mandriva.com>:
>>     
>>> On Tuesday 09 June 2009 20:59:28 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
>>>       
>>>> As I was the one to take the "fight" with us getting Xesam up on
>>>> feedesktop.org back in the days, I should probably say something about
>>>> this...
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we should use the FDO infrastructure because of three
>>>> things: 1) High barrier to entry for non-experts, 2) Extremely slow
>>>> response time from sysadmins, 3) Very little flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> So we need a system that is the opposite of these three points. I
>>>> think a combination of SF + an external we-own-it shell+web server is
>>>> what we need.
>>>>
>>>> So what I propose:
>>>>
>>>> SF:
>>>>   svn
>>>>   trac
>>>>
>>>> Own server (under xesam.org or oscaf.org, I am indifferent where we mount
>>>> it): Moin wiki
>>>>   SSH shell server
>>>>   Web server with public compiled ontologies (and possibly other stuff)
>>>>
>>>> Then there is the mailing list... I really don't care much here.
>>>>         
>>> This sounds perfect to me. I would even suggest to use www.semanticdesktop.org
>>> instead of xesam.org since that is the namespace of the ontologies anyway.
>>> + the tools are already in place there.
>>>       
>> Sounds sane - who owns semanticdesktop.org? Whois says Stefan Decker
>> of deri.org...
>>
>> Is it a hosting solution where we can create shell accounts for the
>> involved maintainers?
>>     
>
> For those of you not following xdg at freedesktop.org - Aaron Seigo is
> trying to rally people to use gitorious.org for spec hosting... Maybe
> we should proactive and support his idea?
>
> Aaron says:
> "...today i moved the embryonic git repository for xdg specifications to
> gitorious.org:
>
>        http://gitorious.org/xdg-specs/
>
> it is owned by a team called "xdg-specs"
>
>        http://gitorious.org/+xdg-specs
> "
>
> A git repo is easy to move if we ever want that.
>
>   


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