[Clipart] Continuing improving the openclipart flag collection

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller uraeus at linuxrising.org
Fri Jan 28 10:52:49 PST 2005

On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:38 -0500, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller <christian at fluendo.com> writes:
> > a) Move flags away from Geography - that is not the correct section
> > for them as a lot of flags have no correlation at all to
> > Geography. The Signs and symbols is probably a better category,
> > especially since I put the sign keyword into every flag
> Okay.  I knew "Geography" wasn't a perfect fit, but I wasn't sure
> where to put them.  I guess Signs & Symbols makes as much sense as
> anything.  This is an easy change to make when we do the release
> (probably this weekend).  The release announcement should probably
> mention it, though.

Ok, great. Another nice addition would be a frame around the flags, like
we had on the sodipodi website. A lot of flags use white so without a
border they become hard to understand how they actually look on the

> > b) Move out the crests that have gotten into the flags collection into a
> > separate subsection
> Is there an easy way to identify them -- i.e., do they all have a
> certain keyword that none of the (other) flags have?  (If not, we'll
> have to construct a list of them.)

Well I didn't afaik submit these crests so I am not sure what keywords
they have, most is easily identifiable as they are shield shaped, like
this one

What complicates things of course is that some flags have crests upon
them, but most of them should be clear cut.

> > c) Re-order some of the flags.Subnational flags should be grouped and
> > maybe put into national subsection for instance. So under Europe it
> > should probably be a France and Germany subsection for instance.
> Makes sense.  We can start this process for 0.10, but it probably
> won't be completed until after 0.10.
> > e) Clean up titles to only have flag name, not author etc.
> Yeah, the author should be in the creator field of the metadata, not
> in the title field.  I hadn't noticed this issue, because I was mostly
> focusing on the keywords and trusting the rest of the metadata to be
> correct.
> > I am more than willing to do the work needed for this myself, but I
> > would need someone to explain me how I can do it in a way that works
> > for the way openclipart works atm. I am still not sure what parts of
> > the process are manual, what are automatic etc.
> Yeah, that's a bit confusing, as we're still working on improving our
> process.  What's manual this month might be automatic next month.  If
> you are making changes to the metadata (e.g., pulling the author out
> of the title field into the creator field), the best approach is going
> to depend on how many images you're changing.  If it's a handful of
> images, I'd say just resubmit the images with your changes, either
> individually or in a zipfile or tarball.
> If the metadata need to change on a *lot* of the images, probably the
> better approach is to wait for the 0.10 release (since the directory
> structure of the flags will have changed substantially since 0.9),
> unzip/untar it, make your changes to the metadata, then retar/rezip up
> just the flags subdirectory tree and submit that, and it can be
> integrated in as a whole for the subsequent release.
> Another possible approach once 0.10 comes out is to write a script
> that makes the metadata changes en situ, using SVG::Metadata or
> whatever, and we can run it from the flags subdirectory.
> At this point I wouldn't recommend basing any significant work on the
> directory structure in 0.9, since that's going to be obsolete very
> soon.  This is my Saturday at work, so I will probably start the
> release process tonight if I'm doing it again, and plan to upload
> the result to the server circa Sunday night for a Monday release.

Ok, I grab the new release and work from that then. Thanks for your
great work so far.


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