[Clipart] Continuing improving the openclipart flag collection

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Fri Jan 28 15:50:54 PST 2005

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:38 -0500, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
>>Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller <christian at fluendo.com> writes:
>>>a) Move flags away from Geography - that is not the correct section
>>>for them as a lot of flags have no correlation at all to
>>>Geography. The Signs and symbols is probably a better category,
>>>especially since I put the sign keyword into every flag
>>Okay.  I knew "Geography" wasn't a perfect fit, but I wasn't sure
>>where to put them.  I guess Signs & Symbols makes as much sense as
>>anything.  This is an easy change to make when we do the release
>>(probably this weekend).  The release announcement should probably
>>mention it, though.
> Ok, great. Another nice addition would be a frame around the flags, like
> we had on the sodipodi website. A lot of flags use white so without a
> border they become hard to understand how they actually look on the
> webpage.
>>>b) Move out the crests that have gotten into the flags collection into a
>>>separate subsection
>>Is there an easy way to identify them -- i.e., do they all have a
>>certain keyword that none of the (other) flags have?  (If not, we'll
>>have to construct a list of them.)
> Well I didn't afaik submit these crests so I am not sure what keywords
> they have, most is easily identifiable as they are shield shaped, like
> this one
> http://openclipart.org/clipart//geography/flags/europe/ile_de_france_01.png
> What complicates things of course is that some flags have crests upon
> them, but most of them should be clear cut.
>>>c) Re-order some of the flags.Subnational flags should be grouped and
>>>maybe put into national subsection for instance. So under Europe it
>>>should probably be a France and Germany subsection for instance.
>>Makes sense.  We can start this process for 0.10, but it probably
>>won't be completed until after 0.10.
>>>e) Clean up titles to only have flag name, not author etc.
>>Yeah, the author should be in the creator field of the metadata, not
>>in the title field.  I hadn't noticed this issue, because I was mostly
>>focusing on the keywords and trusting the rest of the metadata to be
>>>I am more than willing to do the work needed for this myself, but I
>>>would need someone to explain me how I can do it in a way that works
>>>for the way openclipart works atm. I am still not sure what parts of
>>>the process are manual, what are automatic etc.
>>Yeah, that's a bit confusing, as we're still working on improving our
>>process.  What's manual this month might be automatic next month.  If
>>you are making changes to the metadata (e.g., pulling the author out
>>of the title field into the creator field), the best approach is going
>>to depend on how many images you're changing.  If it's a handful of
>>images, I'd say just resubmit the images with your changes, either
>>individually or in a zipfile or tarball.
>>If the metadata need to change on a *lot* of the images, probably the
>>better approach is to wait for the 0.10 release (since the directory
>>structure of the flags will have changed substantially since 0.9),
>>unzip/untar it, make your changes to the metadata, then retar/rezip up
>>just the flags subdirectory tree and submit that, and it can be
>>integrated in as a whole for the subsequent release.
>>Another possible approach once 0.10 comes out is to write a script
>>that makes the metadata changes en situ, using SVG::Metadata or
>>whatever, and we can run it from the flags subdirectory.
>>At this point I wouldn't recommend basing any significant work on the
>>directory structure in 0.9, since that's going to be obsolete very
>>soon.  This is my Saturday at work, so I will probably start the
>>release process tonight if I'm doing it again, and plan to upload
>>the result to the server circa Sunday night for a Monday release.
> Ok, I grab the new release and work from that then. Thanks for your
> great work so far.

Wait, so are we not moving the flags to signs & symbols till next release?


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