[Clipart] Requests: Are they a bit confusing?

Joanna Pszenicyn papapishu at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 04:55:41 PDT 2009

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> From: chovynz chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 chovynz  chovynz wrote:

> Why are there reviews on the request images if
> they are not yet fulfilled? What use is a comment on a REQUESTED image such
> as "Please submit an SVG file. You can convert the image using Inkscape or
> this site: vectormagic.staford.edu . Thanks."
> First, I have some issues with this kind of reply. 1) The submitted image
> (as far as I can tell from the example I chose) is a jpg REQUEST for what
> they want. There is no point in asking general public people to submit the
> REQUESTS as svg, because that is what they are wanting as well - a vector
> svg. This kind of admin comment on a non-svg-image trying to fulfill the
> request would be ok; but not, I believe, on an example image of a request.

There are two ways an image may become a request: either an author submits
it as a request, or he submits non-SVG image as a clipart. Then any admin
who notices such an image writes a review "Please submit an SVG file" and
waits in hope that it was just a mistake ; ) After a couple of weeks (or
months...) an admin moves such image to Requests by adding "request" tag
(usually without deleting/editing the reviews). This is how it works now.
There are some guidelines at http://openclipart.org/wiki/Moderation.

Interestingly, there's also a page
http://openclipart.org/wiki/Image_requests at the wiki, which contains
completely different set of requests, some of them from 2005... Some of them
are surely completed (I can't believe we don't have, for example, " US
National Flag" !!). But... do we really need two places for requests?

2) I researched Vector Magic and you have to pay to use it. When you sign up
> you get two free conversion credits. After that you have to pay for the
> service at $8/month.

When I was recommending vectormagic.stanford.edu (now vectormagic.com), it
was still free...
I guess it would be best to put some Inkscape vectorization tutorial on the
wiki and give links there. I'll try to do it;

> Whats my point? Good question. I'm confused about how to use the requests
> page-list. In some places it seems like a place to request an image. In
> others it looks like someone has done something already. Is there someone
> overseeing the requests list to ensure fulfilled ones are moved? How does
> the request page work?

Well, it would be logical if the author of the request could mark it as
"completed". But it seems it doesn't work like this (or am I wrong?).
"Completed_request" is one of the admin tags and only admin can add it. I
don't know anything about "someone overseeing it"; I can look at the list
and try to move the "fulfilled" ones...

I also see that there's no intuitive way to link an "answer" to the request.
OK, when it is a new work from scratch, people usually mark it as a "remix"
of the request, and when they feel some of the older cliparts may be used,
they say so in comments/reviews. But it gets sooo messy :( For example,
should I (as an admin) mark a green tree by PeterM
http://openclipart.org/media/files/PeterM/80 as a "remix" of green tree
requested by vochoman http://openclipart.org/media/files/vochoman/6924, or
it just doesn't make sense?

Greetings to all,
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