[CREATE] Code of Conduct

[Femke Snelting]

On 15/01/14 01:47, Dave Crossland wrote:
> RTA this time
>  >
>  > On 14 Jan 2014 16:09, "Tobias Ellinghaus" <houz at gmx.de <mailto:houz at gmx.de>> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2014, 22:40:51 schrieb Andrew Chadwick:
>  > >
>  > > [...]
>  > >
>  > > > Codes of conduct are mostly just "don't be obnoxious; listen, respect,
>  > > > learn" written out in long form with some specifics about what's not
>  > > > to be tolerated. Granted, they say what shouldn't need to be said and
>  > > > are always written in the hope they don't have to be invoked; but they
>  > > > also publicly state that the organizers care about what happens to
>  > > > people at the conference and how welcome they feel.
>  > >
>  > > I don't know about you, but when I approach a group of people that have given
>  > > themselves rules like that my first thought would be "OMFG, do I really want to
>  > > get in touch with them? Terrible things must have happened there".
>
> That attitude is a fine example of white male privilege.
>
> I'm a white male, and I want to welcome people who are not like me. If they want a coc, we should give them one. If PSF wants one to give us money to find their travel to join us, all the better.
>
> I think a coc also helps mitigate the tyranny of structurelessness.
>
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness

You saved the day Dave -- thank you for bringing up that reference

The short of it: I am for adopting the Python Code of conduct as-is (which is being developed and publicly discussed here by the way https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct ) and pick at the details of it's phrasing later.

It would be great if the Python foundation would decide to support LGM again and I am not afraid a Code of conduct will scare away tight pants, discussions around it, or anyone for that matter.

A publicly available statement about "how the organizers care about what happens to people at the conference and how welcome they feel" might bring some perspective to the tyranny of cluelessness that shows from this thread.


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