[CREATE] Code of Conduct

[S.Kemter]

Hi,

You are aware that this brings trouble to me? Its not that simple we make
an Code of Conduct and thats just our business. The university needs to
agree to it and they will take that further away to the Ministery of
Culture. Why because they have to be sure it breaks not german or/and
saxonian laws. You open Pandoras Box here, well there are woman rights and
minority rights touched so the "Gleichstellungsbeauftragte" has also to
give his ok and there are some others with strange titles also.


Before you discuss any CoC for Leipzig, do me a favor go to the violations
list and try to find german events on it.  (except CCC that an topic of its
own)


br gnokii


2014/1/15 Femke Snelting <snelting at collectifs.net>

> On 15/01/14 01:47, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>> RTA this time
>>
>>  >
>>  > On 14 Jan 2014 16:09, "Tobias Ellinghaus" <houz at gmx.de <mailto:
>> houz at gmx.de>> wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > > Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2014, 22:40:51 schrieb Andrew Chadwick:
>>  > >
>>  > > [...]
>>  > >
>>  > > > Codes of conduct are mostly just "don't be obnoxious; listen,
>> respect,
>>  > > > learn" written out in long form with some specifics about what's
>> not
>>  > > > to be tolerated. Granted, they say what shouldn't need to be said
>> and
>>  > > > are always written in the hope they don't have to be invoked; but
>> they
>>  > > > also publicly state that the organizers care about what happens to
>>  > > > people at the conference and how welcome they feel.
>>  > >
>>  > > I don't know about you, but when I approach a group of people that
>> have given
>>  > > themselves rules like that my first thought would be "OMFG, do I
>> really want to
>>  > > get in touch with them? Terrible things must have happened there".
>>
>> That attitude is a fine example of white male privilege.
>>
>> I'm a white male, and I want to welcome people who are not like me. If
>> they want a coc, we should give them one. If PSF wants one to give us money
>> to find their travel to join us, all the better.
>>
>> I think a coc also helps mitigate the tyranny of structurelessness.
>>
>> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness
>>
>
> You saved the day Dave -- thank you for bringing up that reference
>
> The short of it: I am for adopting the Python Code of conduct as-is (which
> is being developed and publicly discussed here by the way
> https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct ) and pick at the details
> of it's phrasing later.
>
> It would be great if the Python foundation would decide to support LGM
> again and I am not afraid a Code of conduct will scare away tight pants,
> discussions around it, or anyone for that matter.
>
> A publicly available statement about "how the organizers care about what
> happens to people at the conference and how welcome they feel" might bring
> some perspective to the tyranny of cluelessness that shows from this thread.
>
>
>
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