Fwd: Results of the freedesktop summit

Sanel Zukan sanelz at gmail.com
Wed Apr 17 02:10:32 PDT 2013

This is how all this kernel DBus thing is looking from my perspective:

 * someone decided to speed up DBus by adding AF_DBUS
 * kernel devs ditched it
 * guys complained but also found AF_DBUS is not enough
 * so someone figure out it could be a module
 * after this, I lost track and don't care any more

Did I got this correctly?

I'm following this mailing list just like you, but some information I
had to retrieve from reddit...


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 07:02:44AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Before I start calling this a conspiracy, let me ask here:
> Has anyone from the (current) D-Bus community got any knowledge of what the 
> (kernel) D-Bus guys are doing? Despite asking several times for it, they have 
> not shared details with us, they have not posted their source code, they have 
> not tried to interact with the current, existing and experienced developers.
> As far as I know, their current code consists of (unpublished) ideas and the 
> systemd-bus module to interface with the (unpublished) kernel side. Does 
> anyone know anything new?
> if so, please share with the rest. This is getting ridiculous.
> Lennart, if you have slides or notes from Nuremberg, please share them with 
> us. It's high time you guys came forward with your ideas.
> (A really frustrated) Thiago
> ----------  Forwarded message  ----------
> Subject: Results of the freedesktop summit
> Date: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 14.06.19
> From: David Faure <faure at kde.org>
> To: kde-core-devel at kde.org
> This past week, developers from the KDE, GNOME, Unity and Razor-qt
> projects met at the SUSE offices in Nürnberg to improve on collaboration
> between the projects by discussing specifications.
> [snip]
> 5) Sync up between kernel and desktop people about dbus
> When I arrived, Lennart was showing details of his current implementation of 
> DBus into the Linux Kernel.
> This was mostly too low-level for me (and arriving in the middle of it didn't 
> help), but what I learned was the big plan around this, the idea of contained 
> applications for security, with the kernel as intermediary (with security 
> policies) between the secure app and the rest of the world (see also next 
> item).
> Thiago, if you're not yet following this topic, I have a strong feeling that 
> you should :-)
> [snip]-
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