The future of the GStreamer Java bindings?

[Davide Perini]

Hi Nicola,
this is pretty clear but it's not obvious to find a commercial project 
that earns enough money from the bindings
that can help with a reasonable amount of money.

This is the reason why we are talking about it :)

Davide


Il 25/02/2023 17:32, Nicola Murino ha scritto:
> You could financially support Codelerity. I guess this would help.
>
> If you use an open source software, it is in your best interest to 
> ensure that the project you rely on stays healthy and well maintained.
> Take a look here to better understand what I mean
>
> https://words.filippo.io/pay-maintainers/
>
> Regards
> Nicola
>
> P.S. I'm not related with Codelerity in any way
>
> Il 25/02/23 16:48, Davide Perini via gstreamer-devel ha scritto:
>> My knowledge of JNA is not strong and my time for learning JNA/Panama 
>> is not enough so I'm not able to help Codelerity in this currently.
>>
>> I know many people that uses GStreamer thanks to the Java bindings 
>> for GStreamer,
>> most of this people would never use GStreamer without the bindings,
>> this is why I think that bindings are as important as GStreamer by 
>> itself.
>>
>> Davide
>>
>>
>> Il 24/02/2023 19:34, Andreas Tunek via gstreamer-devel ha scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>> Den fre 24 feb. 2023 kl 08:48 skrev Davide Perini via 
>>> gstreamer-devel <gstreamer-devel at lists.freedesktop.org>:
>>>
>>>     It's very sad to see this message from Neil but I completely
>>>     understand it.
>>>
>>>     I think that the Java bindings for GStreamer is an important
>>>     part of
>>>     GStreamer,
>>>     without this binding, GStreamer is not as interesting as it is
>>>     currently.
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems you maybe should support Codelerity if this is something 
>>> that is important to you?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>     I think that GStreamer's devs should think on this message and
>>>     start
>>>     putting some
>>>     effort in the binding.
>>>     It could even be useful to brake slightly with the development of
>>>     GStreamer to make room for the bindings.
>>>
>>>     I hope that GStreamer's devs will chime in with some ideas.
>>>
>>>     Kind regards,
>>>     Davide
>>>
>>>
>>>     Il 21/02/2023 19:58, Neil C Smith via gstreamer-devel ha scritto:
>>>     > Hi All,
>>>     >
>>>     > I'd like to start a conversation on the future of the Java
>>>     bindings
>>>     > for GStreamer, gst1-java-core [1] and related projects. I've
>>>     not been
>>>     > able to put much time into the bindings recently. And despite
>>>     seeing
>>>     > an increasing number of commercial users of the library, none of
>>>     > Codelerity's commercial work over the last 18 months has been
>>>     > GStreamer related. That situation is not sustainable for me!
>>>     At least
>>>     > while I remain the sole maintainer, and primary developer and
>>>     source
>>>     > of support. Simply put, I cannot afford to invest for free, at
>>>     least
>>>     > alone, the level of time that is required to make necessary
>>>     updates to
>>>     > the library to meet changes in both Java and GStreamer.
>>>     >
>>>     > I was one of the maintainers of the GStreamer 0.10 bindings
>>>     for Java,
>>>     > and started the GStreamer 1.x supporting fork in 2015 to meet some
>>>     > personal project needs. I made the project openly available,
>>>     but never
>>>     > intended to stay its sole maintainer. Despite many valued
>>>     > contributions from others over the years, no-one with the
>>>     necessary
>>>     > knowledge has volunteered to help on an ongoing basis with
>>>     development
>>>     > and maintenance - even with some heavy hinting at times!
>>>     >
>>>     > Unfortunately, if we cannot find a sustainable way forward,
>>>     then we
>>>     > just might have to accept that it's time to call it a day on these
>>>     > bindings. That would be a shame!
>>>     >
>>>     > [1] https://github.com/gstreamer-java/gst1-java-core
>>>     >
>>>     > Thanks for any input you have!
>>>     >
>>>     > With best wishes,
>>>     >
>>>     > Neil
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>
>>
>
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