[HarfBuzz] Updates Regarding Text Layout Working Group Meeting At LGM in Wrocław, Poland

Behdad Esfahbod behdad at behdad.org
Thu Jan 31 12:40:50 PST 2008

Hi again,

So I got my visa today and it covers the LGM dates; so, good.  I'm still
looking for sponsorship.  Pending an answer from my manager.

On another note, Ed, can you please invite Jonathan Kew of SIL to the
event?  My not-so-secret plan for using HarfBuzz as the ultimate shaping
backend for everything FLOSS includes XeTeX too, and would be great to
know their requirements sooner than later.  (Someone from luaTeX team
would be interesting to have too.  Guess that would be Taco Hoekwater.
I don't have their addresses.  You should be able to find them on the
net.  For reference:


Worth a try I guess.



On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 16:40 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Thanks Ed for the update.  Comments below.
> Re LF and meeting in the US, the Big Pond is one issue, the Bull Dog at
> the gate is another...  I need to start booking visa appointments at
> least 4 months before the travel date.  And that means I should have no
> other travel arrangements for that four months in between because my
> passport won't be available (for the second half only, but).  So, if
> things go fast, we may even want to meet again later this year, in
> Manhattan.  But that's a separate issue.
> On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 10:04 -0500, Ed Trager wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ===================================================
> > 
> > Here are my thoughts:
> > 
> >      3.1. We continue the plans to have a TLM meeting at LGM in
> > Wrocław.
> > 
> >      3.2. Those who can attend will attend. Behdad and others will be
> > there.  People who plan to attend PLEASE FILL IN YOUR NAMES
> >            ON THE WEB PAGE AT
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/TextLayout2008Attendees .  I will try
> > to update the web pages based on
> >            what I know as soon as I have some time.
> I'll get my Schengen visa later this week and will know 100% if I will
> be there.
> >      3.3. Those who can't attend won't.  That includes me -- I have no
> > sponsorship from my employer nor from elsewhere.
> Ah.  I've just asked my employer for myself too.
> >      3.4. At LGM in Wrocław we decide about which future LF
> > Collaboration Summit venue would be best for the next TLM after
> > Wrocław.
> Yep.
> >      3.5. I think the LF Collab Summit in Austin in April is coming up
> > too soon so I don't see Austin as a viable option compared to
> >            Wrocław.  There is already a lot of excited discussion
> > about what can be discussed in Wrocław, so I think it is fairly
> > evident that
> >            Wrocław is the preferred venue this time around.
> I'm not LF Collab Summits are necessarily the best place for Text Layout
> anyway.  LGM is the perfect place really.  I'm actually in favor of
> having it at LGM in the following years too.
> >      3.6. If we could really manage to get YouTube videos of each
> > presentation this year, I think that would go a long, long way toward
> >            maintaining open communication with the wider community who
> > are unable to attend Wrocław in person.
> Yes.
> >      3.7. Anyone who wishes to disagree with my take on all of this,
> > please feel free to do so.
> Agreed with most.
> > Best Wishes -- Ed Trager
> Cheers,

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