[LGM] Fwd: LGM2014 decision meeting, Saturday at 16.00 UTC

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

I also have some other remarks to the discussion in this thread: in
Madrid, there was a meeting, there were proposals, everyone who wanted
to participate could participate and we all got together instead of
browsing the city. Now the list gets extended and Sirko is taken off
the list because of personal disparities or why?

The meeting in Madrid was well announced. We had an in-depth
discussion. Different ideas were discussed and as far as I could see a
consensus was reached. After that, we keep seeing different proposals
how to decide a venue popping up. Then suddenly, there is an LGM board
announced that existed, even though there was not a mentioning of this
before and it seems not everyone from the so-called board is even
interested to involve.

I find it very confusing that decisions that were reached are
constantly questioned and discussed again. What is the goal here? If
there was no consensus, why did not people who were not d'accord say
anything?  We had the advantage of a face to face meeting and it is as
if it never happened?

Also, despite this long email, please consider: Not everyone who wants
to contribute is motivated to participate in this kind of politics and
imposed re-ocurring and time-consuming online discussions.

I do not know how if anyone else sees these issues, but I think more
structure in a form of an organization, formalization in processes,
decision making and more transparency could help to avoid such issues
in future.

Best regards,

Mario



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Mario Behling <mb at mariobehling.de> wrote:
> Hello Jon and all,
>
> thank you for setting up the meeting. We have all the info together
> and will provide the info in the pad etc.
>
> Originally, I had the understanding the time until the finalization of
> the proposal is until May 15, as there are many events going on this
> weekend (Berlin WebWeek, Codemotion, Wireless Community Weekend) which
> were scheduled for a long time, but I guess an IRC meetup can be done.
>
> See you all online.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mario
>
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Michael Schumacher <schumaml at gmx.de> wrote:
>> On 11.05.2013 01:26, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
>>>
>>> Am Freitag, 10. Mai 2013, 02:26:01 schrub Jon Nordby:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> So lets try to get together on Saturday 11 May at 16.00 UTC (18.00 CET)
>>>> at
>>>
>>>
>>> Just for the record, 1600 UTC is 1700 CET. However, it is 1800 CEST which
>>> we
>>> currently have.
>>
>>
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LGM2014+decision+meeting&iso=20130511T16
>>
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>> Michael