[LGM] Formal Motion on 2018 and 2019 Venues

Tue May 9 11:44:09 UTC 2017

Hi all,

big misunderstanding on my part, I thought that you would vote on the
venue first, then we'd go for picking a date that works best for
everyone. But if there's interest in working with regional partners,
coop with the (amazing) demoscene event etc, then 2019 would make a
lot more sense for us. At least if LGM is a second-quarter event.

As I had written funding-wise I think we'd be able to get similar
support, i.e. low / no venue cost etc.  Hope this doesn't confuse
things too much - but since Zoe seems ready to roll for 2018, maybe
that's a way to proceed.

bestest, apologies for whatever confusion this creates.

Soenke

2017-05-09 8:23 GMT+02:00 Soenke Zehle <soenke at kein.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> happy to answer whatever questions you may have. We didn't mean to
> push but depending on the likely scope of the event it does need a bit
> of organizing time.
>
> We also really enjoyed the discussion about Paris because we feel that
> especially now we need to make sure that cross-border cooperation is
> something we want and are comfortable with. Whatever you think about
> the EU, Europe works at the grassroots level, and because we have
> colleagues in Metz (incl. http://tcrm-blida.com/) and Luxembourg
> (http://www.rockhal.lu/rocklab/, http://www.technoport.lu), each about
> an hour away, we would like them to act as co-hosts to whatever extent
> possible, linking the event to their local FLOSS dynamics and possible
> developing satellite events there. Jehan, if this would interest you
> and your colleagues, let's talk (regardless of whether we end up doing
> this in 2018 or 2019).
>
> Frank, after talking to my colleagues we feel that we would have
> similar co-funding opportunities for 2019, all of which remain to be
> confirmed of course. So I really want to emphasize that 2018 and 2019
> are both ok options for us. If 2018, first or second quarter might be
> a bit ambititious though, Sept would probably work better. For 2019,
> however, there would be more time to synch an LGM with
> https://2017.revision-party.net/ which always occurs (not which is
> always carefully organized by a group of highly committed people).
>
>
> Best,
>
> Soenke
>
> 2017-05-08 20:54 GMT+02:00 Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com>:
>> Good call on adding the links.
>>
>> We ought at least to build out a branding-compatible template for next
>> year's website before handing off to local organizers, so I've started a new
>> thread to get a web team together and to find our branding elements.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Per Lara's suggestion, I have opened an Etherpad document here (
>>> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LGM_2018_Venue_Poll ) to record votes
>>> > prior
>>> > to the IRC chat, and I have voted. I encourage others to do so as soon
>>> > as
>>> > possible.
>>>
>>> I have read both propositions and voted yes to both.
>>> Also I added the links to the proposals on the pad as well, so that
>>> people don't have to dig in the ML history to find these.
>>>
>>> > Per Louis's suggestion, I set the deadline for the 2019 question a week
>>> > later so that we can focus on 2018 over the next week or so.
>>>
>>> Good. A week is ok. But there is no reason to delay much more. So
>>> that's a good delay choice. :-)
>>>
>>> What would be really good as the next step for the 2018 LGM
>>> (Saarbruecken if we agree on this, which seem like it will be the
>>> case) will be that as soon as the vote is over, a new Wordpress is
>>> installed under 2018/ on the web server, not public yet (or at least
>>> not the default redirection) and an admin account could be given to
>>> the local team for them to design it. Ideally in the next few months,
>>> a brand new website at Saarbruecken colors could be up and publicly
>>> visible with the basic information (the kind of information from the
>>> proposal is a start). This should also help for funding to have a web
>>> presence.
>>>
>>> Jehan
>>>
>>> P.S.: thanks Frank for making this all in the public mailing list. As
>>> you know, I really much appreciate this! :-)
>>>
>>> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Louis Desjardins
>>> > <louis.desjardins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> 2017-05-08 11:15 GMT-04:00 Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The reason that I'm trying to push this along is that Soenke from
>>> >>> Saarbruecken had mentioned that he would probably need to start the
>>> >>> formal
>>> >>> process on some of the grants by the beginning of June.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Frank,
>>> >>
>>> >> It’s very much appreciated that you push this.
>>> >>
>>> >> With no intention of slowing things down, my take is we should stick to
>>> >> our voting process. What has become urgent can be treated as such.
>>> >>
>>> >> Keeping the focus on Saarbruecken for the 2018 decision in a timely
>>> >> manner
>>> >> for the host is the way to go, IMO.
>>> >>
>>> >> Once 2018 has the go, we can concentrate on 2019. Which can happen also
>>> >> as
>>> >> quickly as possible.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for raising the flag!
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Louis
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What sort of additional information would you like to request from the
>>> >>> hosts? I already verified that the information in their proposals was
>>> >>> still
>>> >>> valid, and, since they're already being so generous with their time, I
>>> >>> don't
>>> >>> want to subject them to any unnecessary repetition.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I may be in transit at the time of the proposed meeting next week.
>>> >>> Would
>>> >>> somebody save a chat log? And could we elaborate in advance what
>>> >>> alternative
>>> >>> courses of action would be discussed?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno <gwidion at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 8 May 2017 at 11:30, Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> > (This is the first time that we've done this on the main list
>>> >>>> > rather
>>> >>>> > than
>>> >>>> > the organization list, I think, so bear with me.)
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > LGM has received hosting proposals from Saarbruecken and Milan for
>>> >>>> > the
>>> >>>> > 2018
>>> >>>> > and 2019 events. Both proposals are very strong and combine
>>> >>>> > exciting
>>> >>>> > locations and facilities with interested and supportive local
>>> >>>> > communities,
>>> >>>> > and so I believe that it makes sense to accept both of them. The
>>> >>>> > Saarbruecken team have some significant fundraising opportunities
>>> >>>> > that
>>> >>>> > may
>>> >>>> > only be available for 2018, though, so it makes sense, at least to
>>> >>>> > me,
>>> >>>> > that
>>> >>>> > we meet in Saarbruecken in 2018 and Milan in 2019.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > As such, I propose the following motion:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The Libre Graphics Meeting will take place in Saarbruecken in 2018
>>> >>>> > with
>>> >>>> > Soenke Zehle as lead local organizer and in Milan in 2019 with Zoe
>>> >>>> > Romano as
>>> >>>> > lead local organizer.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi Frank - I thank you for acting as an embassador to the proponents
>>> >>>> of both venues,
>>> >>>> but before casting  a "formal vote" - or whatever- I think it would
>>> >>>> be
>>> >>>> nice to have the direct
>>> >>>> "voice" of both proponents in an updated e-mail on this list :-)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tehn we could do one thing I not do for the 2017 conference and that
>>> >>>> was
>>> >>>> pointed
>>> >>>> as the main motive for the small size of this years issue: we do a
>>> >>>> live meeting on
>>> >>>> IRC to debate the pros and cons of either proposal (or another
>>> >>>> approach)
>>> >>>> - and
>>> >>>> settle for that.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In oder not to stall things, I propose the date-time for this meeting
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> be
>>> >>>> at 21h00 C.E.T. next Thursday (May, the 11th) on freenode #LGM.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> (We don't have to decide the venue this week - and we have had more
>>> >>>> people
>>> >>>> talking here than over the last several months  - but this things
>>> >>>> could be discussed
>>> >>>> live)
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>   js
>>> >>>>  -><-
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > It's very important that we resolve this in a timely fashion so
>>> >>>> > that
>>> >>>> > our
>>> >>>> > hosts can begin planning, scheduling, networking, and fundraising.
>>> >>>> > It's also
>>> >>>> > important that we get positive responses here; silence is not a
>>> >>>> > very
>>> >>>> > reassuring form of endorsement.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
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