[Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Yifan,

On 13/08/2012 12:08, Yifan Jiang wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:14:34AM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote:
>> Hi all, Yifan,
>>
>> So after a long time (sorry for this long absence), I would like to
>> come back to Moztrap and try to help to test it.
>
> Welcome back :) Please let me know if you got problem of registration.
>
>> My first question, the most important for us, is there now a
>> possibility of localization for :
>> - the tests
>> - the environment
>>  From what I see on the todo list Yifan has written long ago the point :
>>   5. Look into i18n and l10n of Moztrap, we need translation system
>> for both test cases and Moztrap UI.
>> Does it mean that it's possible, or does it mean it's not yet
>> possible or that we need to find/define a translation process?
>
> I ever had a talk with the Moztrap developers and it seems neither of the
> localization plans has been on the rador yet :( It needs some deep hacking of
> the code if we want to do that particularly to Libreoffice. So it is not easy
> to handle the localization in Moztrap yet.
>
> One way to workaround is to mix localized wording of test cases into the
> existing English ones, as what we did for Litmus. But it is rather time
> consuming to translate and maintain, because Moztrap split test cases into
> steps. With this method, we need to *manually* maintain translation for each
> test steps and their corresponding expected results. Besides, for some of the
> test cases, localized version might not share exact steps with the English
> version. So I did not put anything localized to the Moztrap test case base
> yet.
>
> I feel it is possibly better to maintain translation version of test cases in
> a different data set, either by hacking the existing Moztrap database or
> putting the translation for test cases to somewhere else like wiki, then
> manually put the link back to Moztrap original English test case.
>
> Any way, we currently really need more people to get involved, try Moztrap,
> make contribution and share ideas :)
>
> One question is can we termporarily survive with pure English wording test
> cases, though they are allowed to choose running under any localizations?

I didn't replied yesterday because I wanted to think more about it. I 
feel that investing work (and you already have invested a good amount of 
work on it) in a tool dedicated to tests for average users in the 
language communities that is not localizable (or with lot of 
difficulties) is a waste of time. We will miss our goal and take the 
risk to provide one more tool (after Litmus) that is not suitable to the 
people wanting to contribute and will discourage them.
>
>> My second question: is there a possibility to store sample documents
>> on Moztrap.
>
> Yes, one of the moztrap's nice feature is attachement support per test case :)

that's a good point, but unfortunately less important that localization.
Thanks for your quick answer, I will continue to seek a solution for 
these manual tests in all languages.

Kind regards
Sophie