[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla (migration) Proposal

Thomas Hackert thackert at nexgo.de
Sat Nov 9 09:29:39 PST 2013

Hello Robinson, *,
On Samstag, 9. November 2013 17:59 Robinson Tryon wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Thomas Hackert <thackert at nexgo.de>
> wrote:
>> Though you have given us a detailed proposal, I have still a
>> couple of questions, sorry ... :(
> awww, that's okay -- must be comeuppance for all of the questions
> I ask all the time :-)


>> 1. What will happen with the existing bugs? Will they stay in
>> their current status (like "OPEN", "NEW" and the like)? Or will
>> that be changed for some reason?
> To make the move as painless as possible, my suggestion is that we
> change as little as possible during the actual migration. Once
> we've got the migration step complete (and after a few days of
> monitoring), then we can start breaking^H^H^H^H^H ...I mean,
> updating and improving the bugtracker.


> If there is something big/intrinsic that we want to change (e.g.
> the list of valid bug states), we should discuss if it makes sense
> to lump that change in with the migration. My gut feeling is that
> it will be safest to make that change separately, but it's best to
> have the discussion and evaluate our options.


>> 2. Will the change to our bugzilla instance mean, that all
>> reporters, CC'ed persons, etc. will get a mail á la "Your bug was
>> moved to bugs.libreoffice.org" (or something like that)? Or would
>> it be possible to mail all registered users beforehand (for LO
>> bugs that is ... ;) )? I mean, we have old bugs there, where its
>> reporter may have forgotten about it in the meantime.
> In the current proposal there are a couple of different "notify
> everyone" steps. In either one of them (probably the one ahead of
> time) we could notify all of our bug reporters of the upcoming
> migration.

I would prefer to get only one mail from bugzilla and not dozens of 
it ... ;)

> Given the large number of bug reporters and the fact that many of
> them are not very involved in the LibreOffice community, we'll
> want to craft our email interactions carefully so we can have the
> best possible interaction. Anything we can do to simplify the
> account migration process will help keep us in the good graces of
> our userbase.


>> 3. You seem to have forgotten to mention, that we have to search
>> the source code / OLH from LO itself and replace all occurences
>> there as well. Or am I just too blind ;? A short
>> <quote>
>> grep "bugs.freedesktop" -R libreoffice |wc -l
>> </quote>
>> on the source code found 30 hits, and I am not sure, if bfo is
>> mentioned in the OLH as well ... :( I only found one in the
>> Germanophone help in Pootle that far, but that does not mean
>> anything ... ;)
> Ah yes, source code should be on the list. I'll add that now.

Thank you very much :) Another one would be the translations 
repository. A grep for "bugs.freedesktop" reveals 38230 occurences 
of it there ... :(

> Because
> 1) We're planning to keep the same bug #s, and
> 2) My migration proposal includes some form of redirect (automatic
> or notification with link)

That sounds good :)

> Any old FDO URLs that we miss in the initial migration will still
> point (indirectly) at the new LibreOffice Bugzilla URL. So in that
> respect, I think we're pretty-well covered.


>> But it will still be a lot of work to change all wiki pages
>> (especially the ones related to bug hunting, reporting and the
>> like), the qa.libreoffice site, etc. to change them to the new
>> address, changing usefull search strings for blo and the like ...
>> :(
> There will be a bit of rewrite work necessary in the wiki,
> especially for QA, however most of the technical details will
> remain the same (partially because of our goal of making no
> unnecessary changes during the migration process).


> In the weeks leading up to the planned migration, we can start to
> expand the documentation in the wiki (and elsewhere) to mention
> both the current system and the future system. That way when the
> migration day comes we won't be composing new documentation on the
> spot, but can simply remove the old text and any references to
> "future migration" and have a quick change-over.

I hope so ... ;)

>> And changing other documentations, finding other sites, which
>> refer to fdo ... :(
> Sure -- I think there will be a little cleanup here and there in
> the weeks after the migration, but I think that our redirects will
> make that process (mostly) painless for our users.


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