[Libreoffice-qa] Next level of QA and how to get there

Thu Jun 14 15:37:22 UTC 2018

Sure, the ultimate goal is that no one has to burn themselves out. If 
you feel like it, use the "last month" query found here: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/GetInvolved#Find_unconfirmed_bugs

Ilmari

On 14.06.2018 18:33, Sophia Schröder wrote:
> Hi *,
> 
> well, I could try to step my feeds in the field of "confirming bugs" too,
> given that Bugzilla and me are no best friends (too complicated by now).
> 
> So providing a BZ query in this regard would help me.
> OTOH I am full with other stuff to do
> even RL and/or LO related so I cannot promise so much time.
> 
> I am on Windows 10 64 Bit using LO 6.0.5.1 64 Bit too ATM.
> Printer: Canon Pixma MX925 4-in-1
> 
> 
> Am 14.06.2018 um 16:58 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
>> The idea is simply:
>> - what would it take to get to next levels
>> - how things would change in practice
>>
>> I just thought I would lay that out in public, so it will hopefully 
>> inspire others to continue or get involved.
>>
>> Everyone is free to draft their own plans. Personally, I am focusing 
>> on VolunteerMatch. Over the years I have tried so many ways to recruit 
>> that I've lost count and VM feels the most promising so far.
>>
>> Ilmari
>>
>> On 14.06.2018 17:36, dgp-mail at gmx.de wrote:
>>> I totally agree to all ideas and concrete aims, but is there a 
>>> specific plan to reach the different milestones? If this is the case, 
>>> it would be great to know something more about it. If there is now 
>>> specific plan: What is the idea behind your email?
>>>
>>> Dieter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.06.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
>>>> The impact of the QA team has been roughly on the same level for 
>>>> four years and it is getting boring. Now that we have new 
>>>> contributors trickling in through VolunteerMatch, we have some hope 
>>>> of leveling up.
>>>>
>>>> What does getting to the next level mean? Freedom. We will be able 
>>>> to learn new skills and complete projects that have been languishing 
>>>> in our TODOs for ages. Maybe even have time to read a book or watch 
>>>> a movie (I know, preposterous).
>>>>
>>>> I will use unconfirmeds as a yardstick as that is something we can 
>>>> all easily grasp.
>>>> The assumption is that we continue to get 500-800 reports per month.
>>>> A prerequisite to leveling up is that the triaging work is spread 
>>>> evenly between contributors. In practice: only needing an average 
>>>> rate of one triaged report per day per regular tester. This would 
>>>> signal sustainability.
>>>>
>>>> When we manage to keep the number of unconfirmeds below 100 for 
>>>> several months, QA will have moved to the next level.
>>>>
>>>> The effects will be:
>>>> - no long periods of incomplete triaging (debug traces or bisects 
>>>> missing)
>>>> - more people will get into writing UI tests
>>>> - we will have time to do manual tests before releases
>>>> - we will have time to think about and improve the presentation of 
>>>> our work (stats, Dashboard), tech docs and the tools we use 
>>>> (Bugzilla etc.)
>>>>
>>>> This will require roughly ten more regular contributors compared to 
>>>> the level of April 2018.
>>>>
>>>> When we manage to slam the unconfirmeds below 50, LibreOffice itself 
>>>> will move to the next level.
>>>>
>>>> The effects:
>>>> - nearly instant triaging of incoming reports
>>>> - veteran contributors will move more and more into fixing bugs and 
>>>> writing cppunit tests
>>>> - QA will bleed into other teams, filling the gaps - documentation 
>>>> is a natural fit as testers are the first to deal with new 
>>>> functionality and changes
>>>>
>>>> This will require twenty more regular contributors and among these 
>>>> there has to be power users with knowledge of macros, UNO API, 
>>>> databases, files over network, digital signatures and similar 
>>>> advanced user topics.
>>>>
>>>> Ilmari
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