[Libreoffice-qa] Next level of QA and how to get there

Fri Jun 22 16:00:19 UTC 2018

Hello everyone,

In line with buovjaga's proposal, I would like to propose the next QA
meeting ( June 26th at 15:00 UTC) to talk about more concrete actions
and ideas...

For instance, we could run the week/month of QA, similar to the Month Of
LibreOffice, where we could try to put the list of unconfirmed bugs to
150/200 and engage new contributors in the project...

It's just an idea but it could help the team to reach the steps
described by Buovjaga in a reasonable amount of time.

What do you think?

Regards

El 14/06/18 a les 17:37, Ilmari Lauhakangas ha escrit:
> Sure, the ultimate goal is that no one has to burn themselves out. If
> you feel like it, use the "last month" query found here:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/GetInvolved#Find_unconfirmed_bugs
>
> Ilmari
>
> On 14.06.2018 18:33, Sophia Schröder wrote:
>> Hi *,
>>
>> well, I could try to step my feeds in the field of "confirming bugs"
>> too,
>> given that Bugzilla and me are no best friends (too complicated by now).
>>
>> So providing a BZ query in this regard would help me.
>> OTOH I am full with other stuff to do
>> even RL and/or LO related so I cannot promise so much time.
>>
>> I am on Windows 10 64 Bit using LO 6.0.5.1 64 Bit too ATM.
>> Printer: Canon Pixma MX925 4-in-1
>>
>>
>> Am 14.06.2018 um 16:58 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
>>> The idea is simply:
>>> - what would it take to get to next levels
>>> - how things would change in practice
>>>
>>> I just thought I would lay that out in public, so it will hopefully
>>> inspire others to continue or get involved.
>>>
>>> Everyone is free to draft their own plans. Personally, I am focusing
>>> on VolunteerMatch. Over the years I have tried so many ways to
>>> recruit that I've lost count and VM feels the most promising so far.
>>>
>>> Ilmari
>>>
>>> On 14.06.2018 17:36, dgp-mail at gmx.de wrote:
>>>> I totally agree to all ideas and concrete aims, but is there a
>>>> specific plan to reach the different milestones? If this is the
>>>> case, it would be great to know something more about it. If there
>>>> is now specific plan: What is the idea behind your email?
>>>>
>>>> Dieter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.06.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
>>>>> The impact of the QA team has been roughly on the same level for
>>>>> four years and it is getting boring. Now that we have new
>>>>> contributors trickling in through VolunteerMatch, we have some
>>>>> hope of leveling up.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does getting to the next level mean? Freedom. We will be able
>>>>> to learn new skills and complete projects that have been
>>>>> languishing in our TODOs for ages. Maybe even have time to read a
>>>>> book or watch a movie (I know, preposterous).
>>>>>
>>>>> I will use unconfirmeds as a yardstick as that is something we can
>>>>> all easily grasp.
>>>>> The assumption is that we continue to get 500-800 reports per month.
>>>>> A prerequisite to leveling up is that the triaging work is spread
>>>>> evenly between contributors. In practice: only needing an average
>>>>> rate of one triaged report per day per regular tester. This would
>>>>> signal sustainability.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we manage to keep the number of unconfirmeds below 100 for
>>>>> several months, QA will have moved to the next level.
>>>>>
>>>>> The effects will be:
>>>>> - no long periods of incomplete triaging (debug traces or bisects
>>>>> missing)
>>>>> - more people will get into writing UI tests
>>>>> - we will have time to do manual tests before releases
>>>>> - we will have time to think about and improve the presentation of
>>>>> our work (stats, Dashboard), tech docs and the tools we use
>>>>> (Bugzilla etc.)
>>>>>
>>>>> This will require roughly ten more regular contributors compared
>>>>> to the level of April 2018.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we manage to slam the unconfirmeds below 50, LibreOffice
>>>>> itself will move to the next level.
>>>>>
>>>>> The effects:
>>>>> - nearly instant triaging of incoming reports
>>>>> - veteran contributors will move more and more into fixing bugs
>>>>> and writing cppunit tests
>>>>> - QA will bleed into other teams, filling the gaps - documentation
>>>>> is a natural fit as testers are the first to deal with new
>>>>> functionality and changes
>>>>>
>>>>> This will require twenty more regular contributors and among these
>>>>> there has to be power users with knowledge of macros, UNO API,
>>>>> databases, files over network, digital signatures and similar
>>>>> advanced user topics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ilmari
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