minutes of ESC call ...

Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michaelsen at canonical.com
Thu Aug 9 09:17:43 PDT 2012

On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 11:37:10AM -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 11:13 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
> >* bugzilla / gerrit integration (Bjoern)
> >	+ concern about getting spammed a lot from calc guys.x
> >	+ postpone discussion for next week.
> Just to voice my opinion, I too would be reluctant to see this
> integration.  We core devs already receive tons of mails from
> bugzilla many of which are pretty much noise.  And I'm personally
> not very fond of this type of automatic messages cluttering bugzilla
> comments.

The proposal is to send a comment to bugzilla for the _first_ upload of a patch
to gerrit. That is _one_ comment per bug maximum. So not much clutter there. In fact,
if we do not automate this, people might do it manually in 90% of the time,
leaving you with both some extra noise _and_ uncertainty if there is a patch
lurking on gerrit. Worst scenario of all.

> I'm also equally concerned about fragmenting our discussion
> platforms. Even without gerrit, splitting the discussion between the
> mailing list and bugzilla was (to me) hard enough.  Adding gerrit to
> the mix will make matters worse.  I would rather we encourage
> everyone to keep the discussions on the mailing list, instead of
> splitting it in now three different platforms, and adding lots of
> noisy automatic linking between them.

If there is anything that is cluttered its the mailing lists. The review
traffic there is largely discouraging non-core developers who just cant follow
it as is and arent invested enough to do sophisticated mail-filtering. Just
sending out the gerrit account notification, I noted that there are a lot of
volunteers using foo+libreoffice at example.com addresses. That is _not_ a good
sign about the current state of our communication.

If the target is to declutter communication, moving patch reviewal to gerrit is
the best option as it allows more targeted communication (e.g. notification on
of the interested reviewers).



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