ESC meeting minutes: 2019-11-21
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Nov 21 15:47:17 UTC 2019
* Present:
+ Stephan, Michael W, Heiko, Caolan, Gabriel, Cloph, Kendy, Olivier, Miklos, Xisco, Eike, Thorsten, Sophie, Michael S
* Completed Action Items:
+ committer welcome email to Pedro (Kendy)
+ Gifts to developers outside the regular contributors: write some guidelines on nominating (Olivier)
+ sent to the dev list
* Pending Action Items:
+ Propose new certified developers (Kendy, Stephan, Thorsten)
+ still waiting
+ update the ReleaseBuilds wiki page after release baseline for macOS has changed to Cathalina + xcode11 (Cloph)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 6.4: beta1 on the mirror network
+ hard UI / string freeze mid-December → first RC
+ Late features?
+ tdf#97926 Add UNO API for Infobar ( Samuel )
+ objections? => nobody
+ ODF tender, perhaps (Thorsten)
+ ODF 1.3 on the UI, dialog / string change might be needed
+ why not add it now + hide it? (Caolan)
+ could do (Thorsten)
+ 6.3: 6.3.4 rc1 is due this week (waiting for pending reviews)
+ xslt bump, etc.
+ api.libreoffice.org is still at 6.2; usually Timar updates this manually, regularly forgotten (Miklos)
+ perhaps updating this could be part of the normal release process by TDF?
+ AI: file a redmine ticket for this (Cloph)
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ break iterators fixed (Cloph)
+ manual page breaks fixed
+ testing + uploading to the Play store
+ Online
+ libreoffice-6-4 branch is created
+ 6.4 beta1 tag is pushed
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ omega-xapian results page localized (ohallot)
+ bumped to 6.5
+ https://help.libreoffice.org/6.5/en-US/text/shared/05/new_help.html
+ Helpcontent2
+ Several help pages refactored, enhanced and updated,(ohallot)
+ re: PDF export with screenshots
+ Bug fixes and improvements (ohallot)
+ Google Season of Doc
+ Advancing, on schedule (Aaron Peters)
+ reviewing chapters (ohallot)
+ start assembling the book this week (Aaron)
+ see in Nextcloud, LibreOffice Documentation folder
+ expect to be finished by the end of Nov
+ Guides
+ stalled
+ Do you need review help? (Sophie)
+ yes (Olivier)
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
231(231) (topicUI) bugs open, 247(247) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 8(-6) 20(-7) 39(-12) 104(-5)
commented 90(-25) 296(-24) 801(-29) 2205(11)
removed 1(1) 1(1) 1(1) 16(0)
resolved 13(7) 25(8) 83(7) 206(10)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 209 changes in 1 month, and 869 changes in 1 year
dieterp made 59 changes in 1 month, and 300 changes in 1 year
Kainz, Andreas made 54 changes in 1 month, and 270 changes in 1 year
Xisco Faulí made 52 changes in 1 month, and 358 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 47 changes in 1 month, and 384 changes in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 19 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
Thomas Lendo made 19 changes in 1 month, and 265 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 14 changes in 1 month, and 164 changes in 1 year
Timur made 13 changes in 1 month, and 71 changes in 1 year
Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 11 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
+ New tickets with needsUXEval Nov/14-21
* Contextual Single mode with bad spacing and ugly lines; should look the
same as Single Toolbar mode
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128933
* Enter a half-width character at begining of line , The Language change
from Japanese to English.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127491
-> * Options -> Load/Save -> VBA Properties Options for MSO 97/2000/XP
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128924
+ could we go with “Microsoft Office” there? (Heiko)
=> no objections
* EDITING: “Enter“ in first Cell of Table Creates a Paragraph above Table
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71501
* Navigator: right-clicking on any item should bring context menu as
right-clicking the item in document, not custom navigator menu
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128814
=> in discussion, unconfirmed
* PARAGRAPH STYLE: Index headings should have outline-level 1 by default
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128858
=> accepted
* Duplicate choice right above Delete choice -- bad design
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128757
=> easyhack
* Is the explanation clear in tip nr. 14 about selection zooming?
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128712
=> assigned
* UI Pop-up menu for fast access
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128834
=> dup
-> + Guideline on dialog layout ready for review
+ https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/piF7DnPAaY7yS4f
+ Caolan commented
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 22(+1) import failure, 223(-31) export failures
+ most of it is a fallout from docx export work – duplicated attributes
+ plan to revert for now (Caolan)
+ also footnote-related problems, can be a fallout from work of Jan-Mark and/or Miklos
+ 10 coverity issues
+ 17 oss-fuzz issues, 11 are timeouts
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.7.1
+ (+134) 1607 1473 1256 1378 1607 1549 2481 1309 959 673 186 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.8.2
+ (+247) 815 568 375 320 198 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.1.2
+ (-59) 1238 1297 1162 1454 1783 2151 3406 2696 2886 2262 820 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.2.2
+ (-498) 3124 3622 3487 4392 3950 3273 4801 1698 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.3.2
+ (+809) 2629 1820 854 0
* Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
+ hope to have one each quarter.
+ plans for next year:
+ FOSDEM 2020
+ devroom is approved, will be on Saturday
+ CfP deadline is end of November (Michael)
+ next week: need to submit your proposals!
* mentoring/easyhack update
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 97(28) 161(30) 168(34) 181(34)
reviews 1540(293) 4997(236) 13179(208) 55036(393)
merged 417(14) 1652(65) 4690(28) 17076(-20)
abandoned 14(-4) 80(-9) 210(-8) 832(-8)
own commits 314(-42) 1480(-26) 3935(-14) 14677(-109)
review commits 66(-20) 346(-13) 915(-32) 4269(-22)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 10(0) 29(3) 30(3) 32(3)
reviews 174(-22) 673(28) 2041(4) 3910(126)
merged 22(12) 48(14) 152(5) 884(172)
abandoned 148(146) 155(148) 173(142) 468(154)
own commits 27(9) 86(16) 194(10) 954(13)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 6(6) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 198(198)
total 245(245) assigned 3(3) open 226(226)
+ top 10 contributors:
LibreOfficiant made 16 patches in 1 month, and 72 patches in 1 year
Balazs Varga made 10 patches in 1 month, and 59 patches in 1 year
Pranam Lashkari made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Mattia Rizzolo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Tünde Tóth made 4 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
himajin100000 made 2 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
Attila Bakos made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
Ricardo Palomares made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Marco A.G.Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Vajna, Miklos made 147 review comments in 1 month, and 1546 in 1 year
Behrens, Thorsten made 121 review comments in 1 month, and 1644 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 1462 in 1 year
Bergmann, Stephan made 103 review comments in 1 month, and 1055 in 1 year
Holešovský, Jan made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 888 in 1 year
Xisco Faulí made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 970 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 89 review comments in 1 month, and 903 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 1268 in 1 year
Meeks, Michael made 87 review comments in 1 month, and 596 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 1131 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Seth Chaiklin
* Commit Access
+ None
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleep -2 weeks
* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
from:Thu Nov 14 14:39:31 2019
master linux rel jobs: 77 ok: 77 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master linux dbg jobs: 66 ok: 62 ko: 4 fail ratio: 6.06 % break: 4 broken duration: 5.38%
master mac rel jobs: 27 ok: 27 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master mac dbg jobs: 27 ok: 25 ko: 2 fail ratio: 7.41 % break: 2 broken duration: 3.44%
master win rel jobs: 81 ok: 71 ko: 10 fail ratio: 12.35 % break: 9 broken duration:15.71%
master win dbg jobs: 96 ok: 85 ko: 11 fail ratio: 11.46 % break: 11 broken duration:14.05%
master win64 dbg jobs: 89 ok: 77 ko: 12 fail ratio: 13.48 % break: 12 broken duration:10.50%
master gerrit lin jobs: 752 ok: 590 ko: 81 fail ratio: 10.77% time for ok: mean: 20 median: 19
master gerrit plg jobs: 777 ok: 547 ko: 125 fail ratio: 16.09% time for ok: mean: 27 median: 26
master gerrit win jobs: 775 ok: 543 ko: 144 fail ratio: 18.58% time for ok: mean: 55 median: 55
master gerrit mac jobs: 768 ok: 575 ko: 81 fail ratio: 10.55% time for ok: mean: 39 median: 25
master gerrit all jobs: 602 ok: 327 ko: 159 fail ratio: 26.41% time for ok: mean: 120 median: 110
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_191121.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
3 CppunitTest_sc_addin_functions_test
3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlimport
3 CppunitTest_sw_unowriter
3 CppunitTest_writerperfect_writer
5 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter
5 UITest_textCase
5 UITest_writer_tests5
7 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter
13 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter
+ more builds this week (compared to usual)
* l10n (Sophie)
+ weblate instance status: migrating to a newer version
+ also to final hardware
* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
* https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
* skia status: see the updated feature/skia branch in core.git (Miklos)
* hope to merge this branch to master after the libreoffice-6-4 branch-off
* current defaults: enabled build-time, disabled runtime
(later: replace the OpenGL default with skia+vulkan on Windows)
* plan to merge it early next week
* proposing it as Windows default only later (perhaps late in the 6.5 cycle) (Miklos)
* OpenGL was a bad choice for users, happy to see it going away (Thorsten)
* watch the dev list for detailed questions (Thorsten)
* docx/xlsx-aggressive-competitors (Miklos)
+ docx metabug status: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128194 7 open bugs
+ xlsx metabug status: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128382 4 open bugs
+ unchanged from last week
* require make 4.0? (Michael S)
+ confused developers run configure with make 4.0 then run make 3.81 from
Xcode and it breaks mysteriously
+ even if configure sees a newer make, the actual build may see the older one
+ though, RHEL7 doesn’t have make 4.0 yet (have it in devtools)
+ should be fine from the Red Hat side (Caolan)
+ proposal: just require newer make and fail hard on older versions
+ AI: make it a requirement on master (Michael S)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128882
+ LibreOffice 6.4 beta1 for mac → newer build is meant to fix this
+ was built on the wrong baseline
+ Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
+ UNCONFIRMED: 575 (+16)
+ enhancements: 67 (-9)
+ needsUXEval: 2 (-5)
+ haveBackTrace: 0 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 13 (+0)
+ documentation: 9 (-1)
+ android: 6 (+0)
+ iOS: 2 (+1)
+ Online: 15 (+1)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
Old:
+ Save-As behavior on MacOS Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126638
+ not happening for everyone
+ After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina
display (xcode 10)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122218
+ probably depends on xcode version (Xisco)
+ but newer xcode is required by notorization (Cloph)
+ ideal would be to build with xcode 10 entirely
+ HiDPI screen for Cloph would be great (Michael)
+ found out: not a regression, but it is from a user’s PoV
Fixed:
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Libreoffice Notebookbar is not exposing accessible events needed for screen reader users.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109425
+ implementation error, not a regression (Miklos)
+ EDITING: cannot modify a bibliography entry after creating it
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128845
+ regression, Noel ?
+ Unable to open tables in HSQLDB odb-files with apostrophe " ' " character in table name
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128862
+ regression, Noel ?
+ Cannot add AutoCorrect entries once the user/autocorr/acor_xx-XX.dat file is created
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128659
+ regression, Noel ?
+ When execute undo, Text box moves.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128782 + regression, Vasily ?
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+157 -30 (-143) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 15
Xisco Faulí 14
Caolán McNamara 12
Heiko Tietze 10
Timur 8
V Stuart Foote 7
Balázs Varga 5
andreas_k 5
Oliver Brinzing 5
Buovjaga 4
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
NISZ LibreOffice Team 13
Xisco Faulí 6
ken graebe 4
Gerhard Weydt 4
thekswenson 2
Roman Kuznetsov 2
sdc.blanco 2
Mike Kaganski 2
csongor 2
Luke 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
McNamara, Caolán 11
Balazs Varga 5
Kainz, Andreas 5
Németh, László 3
Glogowski, Jan-Marek 3
Vajna, Miklos 3
Tünde Tóth 3
Justin L 2
Michael Stahl 2
Nabet, Julien 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Xisco Faulí 31
dieterp 12
Heiko Tietze 11
Nabet, Julien 8
*UNKNOWN* 8
Timur 7
Alex Thurgood 5
Brinzing, Oliver 5
Foote, V Stuart 3
Henschel, Regina 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 1/40 - 2 % (+0)
5.3 : 0/53 - 0 % (+0)
5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0)
5.1 : 0/35 - 0 % (+0)
5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0)
4.4 : 0/75 - 0 % (+0)
4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0)
4.2 : 2/133 - 1 % (+0)
4.1 : 1/83 - 1 % (+0)
4.0 : 3/82 - 3 % (+0)
old : 4/242 - 1 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ 691/3723 693/3698 693/3670 696/3652 692/3633 694/3622 695/3606
done by:
Xisco Faulí 15
Budea, Áron 3
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
Raal 1
writepaperforme2 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ 864/4549 866/4524 866/4496 870/4478 865/4457 867/4444 868/4427
done by:
Xisco Faulí 16
Budea, Áron 3
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
Raal 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1149(-4) bugs open of 9057(+28) total 2(+0) high prio.
done by:
Xisco Faulí 9
NISZ LibreOffice Team 5
Alex Thurgood 3
Benes, Luke 2
Timur 2
Telesto 1
Raal 1
Nabet, Julien 1
Brinzing, Oliver 1
Robert Großkopf 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
UI - 1(+0)
Calc - 1(+0)
by OS:
Linux - 0(+0)
All - 1(+0)
Windows - 0(+0)
Mac OS X - 1(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 314(+1)
Calc - 223(-2)
Impress - 129(-1)
Writer: docx filter - 77(+0)
LibreOffice - 68(-3)
Draw - 45(+0)
Borders - 40(+1)
UI - 39(+0)
Base - 37(+2)
Writer: perf - 35(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 32(+0)
Crashes - 30(+0)
graphics stack - 29(+0)
Writer: other filter - 29(+0)
RTL - 22(+0)
filters and storage - 22(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 20(+0)
Chart - 18(-3)
BASIC - 18(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
sdk - 1(+0)
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